Thread: BJJ Rules
1/31/2012 1:12am, #41
1/31/2012 1:30am, #42
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1/31/2012 3:24am, #43
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Very interesting videos, Omega. I'm actually learning something from this thread ;)
About the takedown: If it has to be initiated from the standing position (IBJJF), how many takedowns and throws will even award points? There is the Jason Scully video with takedowns and a lot of them are with him being on one knee etc.
A lot of the takedowns I know (except for throws of course), start from a very low base. How long are you considered to have started a takedown from standing position? One knee on the ground? Completely standing?
2/01/2012 4:30pm, #44
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I had a talk with my coach, and he told me that you have to have at least one foot one the ground when initiating. So one knee is allright.
2/01/2012 5:39pm, #45
Yeah, we're just saying where you initiate it.
2/02/2012 2:19am, #46
This is a powerbomb, which Omega mentioned* earlier. No way in hell a move like this is legal in any kind of BJJ or freestyle wresting tournament.
This is a powerslam.
There's no way you can tell me that such a thing is legal in freestyle wrestling. ****, if that's true, you might as well be telling me that guys can bring steel chairs for moonsaults because they're totally legal too.
*mentioned as not being a legal move which is, of course, correct.
2/02/2012 3:54am, #47
As far as I know, the "no slam"-rule in the BJJ rulebook applies specifically to picking up your opponent while you're in his guard and then slamming him back down. I have never ever heard any other explanation of it in rules meetings, I have never heard that throws that involve slamming are illegal, the rulebook contains no details on the criteria for a throw to be illegal... so as far as I'm concerned, the move in the original post is perfectly legal, just like a power slam or a power bomb would be. I remember being slammed heartily at a NAGA tournament (which has rules mostly analogous to IBJJF)... so, for those claiming it's illegal, would you please point me to some actual documents?There are no wrong threats, only wrong answers. (Strategy game truism)
2/02/2012 9:21am, #48
2/02/2012 10:23am, #49
NAGA rules are close to IBJJF? *blink*
Anyway... the new IBJJF rules do not disallow these sort of high-impact throws but I have seen DQs and the argument is always that the take down has to occur in a smooth motion. Meaning if you pick someone up to dump them on their head it is fine as long as there is not a pause where you have the person elevated in the air and hold them there before doing so (or even worse using the stopping of the throw to allow you to jump into it to increase the impact)
2/02/2012 10:32am, #50
Also I'm with Raging Monkey; I've never found NAGA and IBJJF rules to be close, but I'm more familiar to NAGA no gi rules so I could be wrong.