2/07/2012 1:52pm, #141
That said, gaming a scorecard to win a fight is beyond the point of the entire bout. I'm not interested in scoring, and the judges are only there to decide a contest that couldn't be decided another way. Using them and the criteria to which they adhere to win a contest rather than compete in a bout is the exact opposite of my view on prize fighting. I know I'm not the only one who sees it that way, including many fighters I know and train with.
Fight for the fans, fight for the beauty, fight for yourself, and fight for the fight. Don't fucking fight for the record.Originally Posted by Sarcastro
2/07/2012 1:56pm, #142
2/07/2012 2:08pm, #143
Part of my soul dies, when I see fights where someone's piddling around.
Also, lol toughman, that's exactly what these things are, with modified rules. I don't watch it for the dancing, I can get that from dancers, if I feel compelled. The UFC is a PPV giant. To feed that demands excitement and spectacle, not zzzzzzzzzzz.
Would anyone rather have seen Cain and JDS dance for 25 minutes? Brock and Overeem pulling a Kimbo/Alexander? Every fight a Severn/Shamrock 2?
Diaz is one of my absolute favorites. Joe Calzaghe in boxing, same thing. Always move to finish, and engage the opponent. Have the conditioning to be fierce the whole fight, and then do just that.
That's what I watch the sport for. Same thing for K1. If they're not trying to finish, I'm tuning out emotionally. Brock/Alistair, Can/JDS, fights like these are the best. Go at it.
2/07/2012 2:09pm, #144
I don't think Condit should be blamed for not playing someones game. Just for not trying to do what he does:
----Last 10 fights ----
9-1, 7 finishes, with on one other decision win besides this one. And if I remember correctly, Ellenberger vs. Condit was the total opposite of this fight, with both guys constantly trying to finish the other and coming damn close a few times.Originally Posted by Sarcastro
2/07/2012 2:12pm, #145
2/07/2012 2:22pm, #146
Gracie said that the judges' scoring might have been personal rather than unbiased.
"I don't think the judges like Nick," he said. "He comes off, he talks in the ring… Carlos was running at one point, and Nick slapped him in the face said, 'Quit running.' We were there for a dogfight. Carlos said he’d provide for the fans a dogfight, a great fight where they were going to go at it. That was not a dogfight. It takes two to make a dogfight. One guy running away is not a dogfight.
"I don't know what the judges were looking at," he continued. "They’ve never liked Nick in Vegas. They've never voted for him in a decision. The only one was the BJ Penn fight, and he almost had to kill BJ to get that one. I don't think they like his attitude, a guy that's going to go out there and talk. I think they think he's disrespectful. They're going to find a reason to judge against him. I don't think he can get fair judging in that state at all."
2/07/2012 2:33pm, #147
I also would gas myself like so many others have done, TRYING to put him away. This to me is a no brainer, Nick is an amazing fighter who's hard to put away and he's proven it time and time again in the cage. Condit and his coached would have been retarded / blind and stupid to not know this.
I have no doubt that if Condit caught Nick and had him on the ropes that he would have gone in for the kill.
2/07/2012 2:53pm, #148
2/07/2012 3:07pm, #149
but things like this
Where he hit Carlos with a good Combo and backed up is something Chuck wouldn't have done.
It's also why Rich Franklin knocked Chuck out, but it's still why Chuck is the fucking man.
Anyways I am going to the gym so you'll get your pushups and then some.
2/07/2012 3:11pm, #150