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  1. SharkBait is offline

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    Posted On:
    1/16/2012 8:57pm

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    Opportunity of a LIFETIME

    Stumbled this epic listing on the craigslist. One of the greatest martial artists of our time is coming to KY and it'd be a crime not to let you guys in on it.

    http://lexington.craigslist.org/mar/2802896758.html

    People needed ASAP!!!!

    The Main Event Martial Arts Academy is looking for people with well developed advertizing/marketing skills to promote our school.
    We need hard working individuals who say they'll do something and they actually do it!
    There is potential to make a lot of money..we just need the extra help.

    must be available during the days and some evenings. Sales a plus!

    This is a commission based or trade out position.
    please no Jedi Masters.
    We are a black belt school with one of the best Grand Masters In the world

    Grand Master Len Kirschbaum, a 10th Degree Black (the highest rank attainable in the martial arts) He was a 2010 International Black Belt Hall of Fame Inductee and received the International Grand Master Instructor of the year award. This award received hundreds of nominations from over 70 other countries. Never before has Nicholasville had such a dynamic and highly qualified person to bring his wealth of knowledge in martial arts to the Jessamine county area. Grand Master Kirschbaum has received countless awards for his teaching abilities and methods unmatched by others.

    Grand Master Kirschbaum has attained the following ranks in martial arts:

    1st Degree Black Belt in Chinese Kempo
    4th Degree Black Belt in Korean Hapki-Do
    6th Degree Black Belt in Korean Tang Soo-DO
    9th Degree Black Belt in Original Taekwon-Do
    9th Degree Black Belt in KiRu Moo-Do
    10th Degree Black Belt in Japanese Shotokan
    10th Degree Black Belt in The Black Dragon Fighting Society and The International Black Belt Martial Arts Association.
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    Posted On:
    1/16/2012 9:47pm


     Style: Shotokan & BJJ

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    What organization awarded the 10th Degree in Shotokan?
  3. sweats is offline

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    Posted On:
    1/16/2012 9:50pm


     Style: Shotokan & BJJ

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    Can't say I've ever heard of this Taekwon Do organization? http://www.iotf.info/about_us.html However, I've only informally trained with some Taekwon Do guys. Has anyone else heard of this?
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    Posted On:
    1/16/2012 10:13pm


     Style: Boxing

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    Seems a little light on his BB count; only 7 in total and 2 at or above 10th Dan. Hardly fake impressive at all.
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    Posted On:
    1/16/2012 10:17pm

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    nice...

    Stay Classy KY.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhi108 View Post
    Nuke a unborn gay whale for Christ.
    “I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.”
    BILL HICKS,
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    Posted On:
    1/16/2012 11:46pm


     Style: FMA

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    Besides the tame list of questionable credentials are there any real reasons this guy is to be respected? A verifiable competition record perhaps? Humanitarian/ public service work?

    How exactly are those interested in the craigslist article to promote the school? How will they make money? Do you need to get people to sign up for a seminar? Annual contracts? Please elaborate.
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    Posted On:
    1/17/2012 12:00am

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     Style: Shotokan

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    What the **** is "original" TKD? And The Black Dragon Fighting Society is a style? He's a 9th Dan in a style he co-founded...gee how'd that happen?

    A quick Google-Fu of Kiru Moo-Do and what's the first hit? Kirschbaum's credential page from The Official Black Dragon Fighting Society webpage. Here's a nifty little tidbit from the History page:
    "The 1988 released film, Bloodsport, portrays the true life exploits of IFAA Official BDFS original member Frank Dux."

    Oh boy.
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     Style: SAMBO/BJJ/Judo and others

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    Who?

    (google search)

    Is this Grand Master Kirschbaum's students? Not a very good showing for black belt.

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    1/17/2012 12:06am


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    Isn't it funny how anything labeled "the opportunity of a lifetime" is just the opposite. It's got to be one of the least effective marketing strategies. Someone please tell me humanity is smarter than that.
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    1/17/2012 12:07am

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    Wow, just Wow.

    http://www.officialblackdragonfighti...irschbaum.html

    Only a brief description

    1963-Began Martial arts training in Chinese Kempo Karate

    1967-Began training in Shoto-Kan Karate


    1968-Began training in Tang Soo-Do karate


    1969-Opened first Martial Arts School in Central Wisconsin (assistant instructor under Mr. Jacob J. Kuhn)

    1969-Earned 1st Degree Black belt in Shoto-Kan karate


    1970-Earned 1st Degree Black Belt in Taekwon-Do

    1970-Became lead instructor of M.A. school when Head instructor moved away


    1971-Earned 1st Degree Black belt in Chinese Kempo


    1972-Earned 2nd Degree in Taekwon-Do, 2nd Degree in Shoto-Kan and 1st Degree in Tang Soo-Do


    1973-Formed the Wisconsin Taekwon-Do Federation (WiTF)

    1973-Earned 2nd Degree in Tang Soo-Do


    1973-Co-founded the North-Central Instructors Black Belt Federation with Master Bill Van Auken. This organization consisted of various styles of martial arts. This organization became the center point for martial artist from several States to attain proper rank certification in other systems.


    1974-Earned 3rd Degree in Taekwon-Do


    1975-Earned 3rd Degree in Tang Soo-Do

    1975-Hosted the Wisconsin State Taekwon-Do Championships


    1976-Earned 4th Degree in Taekwon-Do and 3rd Degree in Shoto-Kan*

    1976-Began training in Hapki-Do


    1978-Earned 1st degree in Hapki-Do and 4th Degree in Tang Soo-Do

    1978-Founded the United States Taekwon-Do Commission (USTC)


    1980-Hosted the American Crown National Karate and Martial Arts Championships

    1980-Earned 5th Degree in Taekwon-Do and 2nd Degree in Hapki-Do


    1984-Earned 5th Degree in Tang Soo-Do

    1985-Earned 3rd Degree in Hapki-Do


    1986-Earned 6th Degree in Taekwon-Do


    1987-Founded the International Academy of Taekwon-Do (the official training headquarter for instructor certification in the USA).


    1989-Granted 7th Degree in (ITF) Taekwon-Do, and 4th Degree in Hapki-Do*


    1990-Earned 6th Degree in Tang Soo-Do*


    1994-Granted 8th Degree in (ITF) Taekwon-Do


    1996-Co-founded the Original Taekwon-Do Federation (OTF) a national governing body for Original Taekwon-Do in the USA, with the blessing of the Father of Original Taekwon-Do, Choi Hong Hi.


    1997-Represented the International Taekwon-Do Federation (ITF) and the (OTF) at the Martial Arts Federation for World Peace at the request of the founder of Taekwon-Do, Choi Hong Hi.

    1997-Granted 9th Degree in (ITF) Taekwon-Do and title of Grand Master

    1998-Began Conducting Master Instructor Certifications for the ITF in Original Taekwon-Do throughout the world as requested by Choi Hong Hi.

    2001-Co-founded the KiRu Moo-Do system of martial arts with Grand Master Wesley Ruiz. The style of KiRu Moo-Do emphasizes the complete use of Mind, Body and Spirit with the instruction of the healing arts.

    2002-Received notice that the Father of Original Taekwon-Do passed on, on the 15th day of June. Grand Master Kirschbaum called for a special session of Masters and Grand Masters to discuss the fate of the ITF. The special session met on June 17th, and reformed the OTF (the national USA organization, and changed the name to “The International Original Taekwon-Do Federation, (IOTF) in honor of the ITF founder Choi Hong Hi. Grand Master Kirschbaum was elected as the first President of the IOTF.


    2003-Conducted the IOTF General conference and ratified the bylaws and began appointments to national Directors worldwide.


    2006-Grand Master Kirschbaum was re-elected as President of the IOTF.


    2010-Grand Master Kirschbaum was re-elected for his second term of President of the IOTF and was also inducted into the International Martial Arts Black Belt Hall of Fame with the special award of “Grand Master of the Year.”


    Presently, Grand Master Kirschbaum continues the wishes of the Father of Taekwon-Do, Choi Hong Hi. The General is quoted in his encyclopedias saying, “My dream has at last been realized...the ultimate fantasy of spreading and teaching Taekwon-Do with no regard to considerations of religion, ideology, national boundaries or race...”


    Grand Master Kirschbaum is quoted saying, “It is truly an honor to have been commissioned by the founder of Original Taekwon-Do to continue the work through this generation so that every element of Original Ch’ang Hon Taekwon-Do can be preserved under certified instructors. I would have never dreamed that some day I would be in the fellowship of so many great Masters and Grand Masters in the Martial Arts. It is truly a privilege to serve others with something that gives such gratification. I can say without hesitation that I am truly blessed.”

    Grand Master Kirschbaum’s mission as a leading figure in this next generation of Original Taekwon-Do instructor’s, is to provide quality training and authentic certification to all that desire to learn the Original Ch’ang Hon Taekwon-Do created by Choi Hong Hi.

    The current operation of the IOTF is to facilitate the unification of all Taekwon-Do, Tae Kwon Do, Taekwondo, organizations and practitioners’ worldwide into one general body. Though the challenges seem impossible at times, the accomplishments will be overwhelmingly rewarding for all. Each IOTF National Director and International Ambassador is making great progress on a daily basis.

    Grand Master Kirschbaum has attained the following ranks in martial arts:

    1st Degree Black Belt in Chinese Kempo

    3rd Degree Black Belt in Japanese Shoto-Kan

    4th Degree Black Belt in Korean Hapki-Do

    6th Degree Black Belt in Korean Tang Soo-Do

    9th Degree Black Belt in Original Taekwon-Do

    9th Degree Black Belt in KiRu Moo-Do

    Titles won:

    1973 Wisconsin State Karate Champion

    1974 Gopher State (Minnesota) Karate Champion

    1975 North Central Tri-State Karate Champion

    1976 Wisconsin State Taekwon-Do Champion

    1977 Mid America Regional Karate Champion

    1978-1980 USTC National Taekwon-Do light heavyweight Champion

    1980-1984 (ITC) Lt. Heavyweight World Champion

    Served in Martial Arts Organizations:

    1973-First President of the Wisconsin Taekwon-Do Federation

    1973-CEO of the North Central Instructors Black Belt Federation

    1978-First President of the United States Taekwon-Do Commission

    1987-Head Master Instructor of the International Academy of Taekwon-Do

    1996-First President of the Original Taekwon-Do Federation (OTF)

    1997-ITF Representative to the Martial Arts Federation for World Peace

    1998-Appointed Master Instructor Certification Director by Choi Hong Hi

    2001-Technical director at the Center for KiRu-Do Healing and Martial Arts

    2002-President of the International Original Taekwon-Do Federation (IOTF)

    Served in Non-Martial Arts Organizations:

    1991-1993 Advisory Board to the President UK-LCC

    2006-2007 Vice President of the Citizens Police Academy Alumni Asoc.

    2007-2008 President of the Citizens Police Academy Alumni Association

    2009-Current Presenter for the POW/MIA Ceremony (Military Honors)

    Other Degrees and Certifications:

    Certified Respiratory Therapist (National Board of Respiratory Care)

    Certified CPR Instructor (American Heart Association)

    Certified Asthma Educator (American Lung Association)

    Certified EMT (National Registry of Emergency Medical Technicians)

    Certified Concealed Deadly Weapons Instructor (Commonwealth of Ky.)

    Commissioned a Kentucky Colonel By the Governor of Kentucky

    Commissioned a Kentucky Admiral By the Kentucky Cabinet of Energy

    Military Service:

    Enlisted December 10, 1973 Army National Guard Battery A, 1st Battalion 120th Field Artillery, 32nd Infantry Division (the Red arrow)

    Honorably Discharged on May 20th, 1989 with the rank of Sergeant First Class after completing 15 years of service.



    Received the Armed Forces Reserve/National Guard Medal, Army NCO Professional Development Medal, National Defense Medal, Defense Distinguished Service Medal, Solders Medal, Reserve Component Medal, American Defense Medal, Vietnam Defense Medal, Special Operations Medal, Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal, Armed Forces Expert Marksman Medal in Rifle, Hand-grenade and Machine-gun, Presidential Unit Citation Medal, Army Service Ribbon, and the National Guard Perfect Attendance Ribbon with two oak clusters.
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