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    We have a few of these at the armory. The heavy barreled one is a damn brick. I feel sorry for whoever had to hump that thing every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nrmillsap View Post
    I've been looking at either a scar 17A or an SA SOCOM...thoughts?
    Given the choices you have presented, if money is not an issue, then I'd say go with the SCAR 17SA. The SCAR is going to be a lot more expensive, though.Both are gas piston driven, so don't have the problems associated with a direct impingement gas system. The SCAR is lighter and more modular, so you can change barrel lengths fairly easily. With an M14 type rifle, you pretty much have to choose a barrel length and live with it. I prefer the full length barrel, as it is more accurate at longer ranges, but that's my choice. The SCAR 17SA has an inline stock, so I suspect it has a lot less muzzle flip than the M14.

    Phrost, was the heavy barreled M14 in your armory also glass bedded? Glass bedding also adds weight to the rifle. My rifle is not light and I get a bit of a work out when I hunt via stalking.
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    Originally Posted by chuey
    ...Well **** if that isn't the most anti-Mr. Miyagi **** I have heard in ages.

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    The FN SCAR was determined by SOCOM to be unacceptable due to the fragility of the stock. I'd be curious to see what, if anything, FN has done to remedy that situation.
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    I guess that's one advantage of a walnut stock on an M14, aside from aesthetics (wood looks good), it can take/dish out a beating.
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    Originally Posted by chuey
    ...Well **** if that isn't the most anti-Mr. Miyagi **** I have heard in ages.

    Two wrongs don't make a right, but
    Three rights make a left.

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    Because Everything is Better with Videos

    Some people like this guy's videos, other find him annoying. Me, I like 'em.

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    Originally Posted by chuey
    ...Well **** if that isn't the most anti-Mr. Miyagi **** I have heard in ages.

    Two wrongs don't make a right, but
    Three rights make a left.

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    Oh, and some targets

    After watching the video, I decided to dig up some old photos of targets. These were at 100 yards with the original stainless medium weight barrel on my Loaded M1A before I had the rifle glass bedded.

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    Portuguese and Australian surplus.
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    Originally Posted by chuey
    ...Well **** if that isn't the most anti-Mr. Miyagi **** I have heard in ages.

    Two wrongs don't make a right, but
    Three rights make a left.

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    100yds offhand, 20 rounds of some variety of surplus ammo (most likely Port or Aussie):
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    Originally Posted by chuey
    ...Well **** if that isn't the most anti-Mr. Miyagi **** I have heard in ages.

    Two wrongs don't make a right, but
    Three rights make a left.

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    Originally Posted by chuey
    ...Well **** if that isn't the most anti-Mr. Miyagi **** I have heard in ages.

    Two wrongs don't make a right, but
    Three rights make a left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phrost View Post
    We have a few of these at the armory. The heavy barreled one is a damn brick. I feel sorry for whoever had to hump that thing every day.
    Some numbers:
    M14 in standard configuration - 9.2lbs unloaded (fully loaded 20rd magazine = 1.5lbs)
    M14 EBR - unloaded about 12lbs w/o scope base, rings, scope and bipod; just under 15lbs with scope mount, rings, scope and bipod.
    My match tuned M14 with medium weight barrel and glass bedding - 11.8lbs unloaded.
    Mushi mo atsui hodo
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    Originally Posted by chuey
    ...Well **** if that isn't the most anti-Mr. Miyagi **** I have heard in ages.

    Two wrongs don't make a right, but
    Three rights make a left.

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