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  1. Rock Ape is offline
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    Yeah, that port arms thrust is the way we do it. Matter of fact, we start from port arms, then there is a call for steping forward into the stance that is of the Aikido guy above. Then thrusts with steps. The angle #1 strikes are done the same way we do them in single stick.

    But to the op, I wouldn't want to go into a stick fight/ cane fight without having ever used one. So the best option would be to keep training with the sword, but occasionally throw in some stick sparring to get used to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ho Ho Fcuk You ! View Post
    Seeing similarities ?



    Their stance and grip seems similar to a spear thrust, do they use the same principles with that thrust as a spear?? It also seems very similar to a half hand thrust with a longsword.
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    Top picture "Soete tsuki" is a thrust with the power generation coming from the hips, not the hands.

    Bottom "choku tsuki" is a straight thrust again the power generated from body movement but slightly more emphasis on the arms than with the sword.

    The point I'm making is that similarities exist, the physical techniques will be different to account for one being bladed the other blunt but, the mechanical actions overall are very similar and equally powerful in their own ways.

    If you were to study Shinto Muso Ryu Jodo you'd see massive similarities between how the staff is utilised against a sword thus, the staff or cane is just as effective against the human body if it were utilised in a sword-like way.

    And just because i'm that kinda guy, here's a video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ho Ho Fcuk You ! View Post
    Interesting, I've never seen half-sword techniques in kendo (this is kendo, right?)

    This reminds me of one of the few things a Japanese kendo guy showed me. It was a sort of thrust to the throat area of the headgear, which would cause the whole head to kinda rock back, setting up a good cutting followup.

    EDIT^ the image isn't showing up, so pretend that's a pic of the kendo half-sword thrust
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    Quote Originally Posted by Permalost View Post
    Interesting, I've never seen half-sword techniques in kendo (this is kendo, right?)

    This reminds me of one of the few things a Japanese kendo guy showed me. It was a sort of thrust to the throat area of the headgear, which would cause the whole head to kinda rock back, setting up a good cutting followup.

    EDIT^ the image isn't showing up, so pretend that's a pic of the kendo half-sword thrust

    I'm kind of surprised how similar the bottom pic is to a thrust in western swordfighting with a longsword.
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    I'm kind of surprised how similar the bottom pic is to a thrust in western swordfighting with a longsword.
    So, are you starting to see the point I was making right at the begining of this discussion ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ho Ho Fcuk You ! View Post
    So, are you starting to see the point I was making right at the begining of this discussion ?
    Yes I think I can see the point (Bad pun intended lol). To be honest that style of thrust should have occurred to me, but I have not been getting enough sleep lately, sorry about my thread shitting earlier.
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    Thanks for all of the information, everyone! I keep forgetting about halfswording techniques as a possibility, myself! And I've also never seen "halfswording" in Japanese arts! Intriguing!

    Also, do you all think that a 1 inch diameter red oak dowel would do as a decent cane for defense?
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