Let's really explore the dominant arts of MMA

[Tranquil Suit]

Yeah, you guys really need to work on your debate-fu. Most of you have been around here long enough to know how to dismantle a BJJ nutrider argument by now.

I am pretty disappointed.

Bitch please. Your BJJihad trolling is too boring to play with. And **** you for derailing the thread AND being a boring troll.

[Omega Supreme]

I would like to say, shame on most of you for not knowing he was just fucking around.

[Ke?poFist]

I set your argument on fire and am currently watching it burn. Dismantling it instead would be about as boring as watching Royce Gracie vs Dan Severn.

That's the stuff!!!!

[Tom Kagan]

That's the stuff!!!!

A staller vs a declawed mauler is "the stuff"?

The true winner of that fight was the one whose friend first showed up with a weapon. Unfortunately, Dan had no friends and Royce only had nutridders. NHB, indeed.

[Tranquil Suit]

Back on topic.

So it has been established that the 3 main domains in MMA are Striking, Wrestling (position control, takedowns), Grappling (submissions). Now would you say it is better to be Very Good in all three or be Great in one and Good in the others.

I'm talking about years of pro training here, not some ammy 3 times a week training.

[Tranquil Suit]

P.S. Hey Ke?poFist, you will never be this good.

[Permalost]

Yeah, you guys really need to work on your debate-fu. Most of you have been around here long enough to know how to dismantle a BJJ nutrider argument by now.

I am pretty disappointed.

You have manipulated the fishing line just right for the troll bait to catch my eye.

Psh, this is bullshit. The only reason BJJ still isn't the dominant art is because of the rules.

With all these damned stand-ups, and short rounds, a BJJ fighter can never really get cooking with his gameplan, and the biggest tragedy is that fighters now believe that to be a "complete" fighter, they need more than Jiu-Jitsu. In reality, to win in MMA you need more, because the rules keep forcing you to not use your Jiu-Jitsu, and instead try to do more "exciting" stuff that can earn you quick points or a knockout for the crowd.

"There is no rules, there is only jiu jitsu." *gong sound*

In the old days a Jiu-Jitsu fighter could tie his opponent up for as long as he needed on the ground, until they either tired, or presented an opening to be submitted. Now the ref just puts it back on their feet, so the opponent knows if he just lays there like a rug instead of trying to escape, he can get stood back up.

Oh yeah, since the jiu jitsu guy who bitches about time limits is never seen laying there like a rug.

Saying Jiu-Jitsu isn't a complete fighting system for MMA, is like saying that a crock pot isn't a complete form of cooking in a chef's competition, because the rules of the cooking show make you have to have your meal prepared in under 15 minutes. There's no time to marinade let alone, slow roast, so of course everyone's gonna be stir-frying!

Show me a successful cooking show where the camera focuses on a slow-cooking crock pot for several hours.

[karma2343]

You are awful @analogies! (but I see what you did there)

Are you implying that cooking shows shouldn't have groin shots or eye jabs? You've lost me, bro.

[Bad Apple]

I believe that's the entire point of the article and thread. But really BJJ is the best and all you need.

BJJ, this gi, my time machine set for 1993 and that's ALL I need....and this scrotum saddle and that's ALL I NEED

[Ke?poFist]

Show me a successful cooking show where the camera focuses on a slow-cooking crock pot for several hours.

http://rachaelrayshow.com/show/segme...ckpot-cooking/