Thread: Baseball bat or knife?
1/12/2012 7:48am, #91
Trying to find one. Problem is I half remember a break in where the home owner either got sued or charged. I think it again comes back to reasonable force and when it turnes into assult.
Although I did find one where a home owner stabbed a guy and got off.
Otherwise I will keep looking
1/12/2012 10:06am, #92
You may be thinking of Katko v. Briney.
The Brineys had rigged up a shotgun based booby trap in their guest home, which was set off by an intruder who then successfully sued them in civil court. This led to a great hue and cry by various politicians and other thinkers of good thoughts, and the passage of so called "Briney bills" in several state legislatures, expanding the right of a home owners re: self defense, as many people think if you decide to go into the house breaking business you should be willing to deal with the occasional shotgun blast.
1/12/2012 10:20am, #93
On a side note, I had my son use one of his nerf swords against me in the hallway while I had one too, and it was frustrating as hell. All I could do was virticle swings and thrusts, which I used ok. I used it to make my was to the living room where it opened up to allow for better striking angles.
Definately would want the bat, because range is the deciding factor in the hallway.
1/12/2012 12:53pm, #94
I'll parrot his bullet points, speculated towards fighting instead of hitting a ball:
1. Aluminum bats swing faster- this has to do with the center of mass being closer to the handle. This also seems like it would be better for overall handling for fighting, as well. Anyone with experience with swords has probably noted that when the COM is closer to the handle, it's easier to handle the weapon.
2. Trampoline effect- there's less energy lost in the compression of the bat on impact, so I guess more is being imparted to the ball. Sounds like more power for hitting a guy.
3. Wider sweet spots- the ideal place to hit a ball has a wider margin of error than a wooden one. To me, a wider margin of error sounds like a good thing when you're swinging at a person, since they're apt to move in any direction to stifle your beating attempts.
4. Aluminum bats don't break- wooden bats often crack when they hit a ball. Are they likely to break when hitting a person? I'm not sure- a person's bones can offer a hardier target than a baseball, but its probably not flying at baseball speed into a perfect baseball bat swing. Nonetheless, more durable = better weapon, in my book.
So, I guess aluminum's a better choice, if you have either option.
1/12/2012 1:17pm, #95
Aluminum bats are illegal in MLB and the NCAA is considering a ban on them as well, due to the reasons above.
Many composite bats are similarly illegal in Little League.
I'd definitely go for aluminum.
1/13/2012 12:10am, #96
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the bat, not only less deadly to the robber (or me) but also the intimidation factor
the sight of a bat can scare of any violent thoughs where a knife can be overlooked and you'l still be attacked
2/13/2012 1:47pm, #97
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Little league baseball bats. want to buy couple more. prefer hickory.
2/13/2012 2:10pm, #98
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5/22/2012 11:37pm, #99
the bat."Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
***Was this quote "taken out of context"?***
"The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
~ The Secret of Judo (Jiichi Watanabe & Lindy Avakian), p.19
"Hope is not a method... nor is enthusiasm."
~ Brigadier General Gordon Toney
5/23/2012 8:54am, #100