UFC 141: Lesnar vs Overeem - Nate Diaz vs Donald Cerrone, Phan - Friday Dec. 30, 2011

***Tranquil Suit*** · Posted On: 12/26/2011 10:01am

Originally Posted by Holy Moment

Lesnar will beat Overeem becauwse grappling is better than striking. Although Ken Shamrock once called Overeem a grappler when he fought Paul Buentello, do I don't know.

I thought this was settled already: http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...=1#post2630461

**Rudenoodle** · Posted On: 12/27/2011 5:48pm

Brock Lesnar vs. Alistair Overeem
Nate Diaz vs. Donald Cerrone
Jon Fitch vs. Johny Hendricks
Alexander Gustafsson vs. Vladimir Matyushenko
Ross Pearson vs. Junior Assuncao
Manny Gamburyan vs. Diego Nunes
Dong Hyun Kim vs. Sean Pierson
Jacob Volkmann vs. Efrain Escudero

***jnp*** · Posted On: 12/27/2011 6:06pm

I believe someone already said this previously, but I don't think Lesnar has the tools to beat Overeem unless he can take him down repeatedly.

**Bad Apple** · Posted On: 12/27/2011 6:40pm

I don't know about the repeatedly part. If Brock gets Overeem on the ground he better finish from there right away. He actually managed a pretty good 1/2 rear mount to pound out Mir.

...but I ain't betting any points on that happening

**Holy Moment** · Posted On: 12/28/2011 1:31pm

I thought this was settled already: http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...=1#post2630461

Mexico has a very established and longstanding boxing culture, while Brazil is obviously the birthplace of Gracie jiu-jitsu. Hence, Dos Santos used jiu-jitsu to defeat Velasquez.

**Odacon** · Posted On: 12/28/2011 3:40pm

I'm amazed people are giving Brock a hope, this is his second major surgery, and it's not like he was getting a shoulder or knee fixed or something, we're talking vital organs here, I'll be shocked if he makes it out of the first alive.

**CNagy** · Posted On: 12/28/2011 6:55pm

Don't you know? Losing 12 inches of colon just means he can pack on an equivalent amount of extra muscle.

**hapkido_keith** · Posted On: 12/29/2011 2:26am

Brock has a real problem in this fight in that he only has one real weapon: his double-leg. If Overoids can trains the **** out of defending this attack, and can do it successfully, Brock is hosed. Brock has also shown trouble holding down some opponents, such as Couture and Velasquez. I don't think this one pans out in Brock's favor.

**shogunism** · Posted On: 12/29/2011 9:37am

Overeem has 2 weapons against Brock's wrestling in his infamous uberknee and guillotine. If they do not work well Brock's lunchboxes of doom will end the era of Uberreem