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    Why would you insist Lesnar sucks because of his disease when he and his whole camp said he was 100% and he said himself he thought Overeem broke a rib?
    Everyone says they're 100%

    And he didn't start the fight and look like **** with a broken rib.

    I am not taking away from Overeem but that was not the best Overeem beating the best Brock. Could Overeem beat the best Brock probably, but the minute I saw Brock throw a weak as leg kick at the beginning I knew he was going to lose.

    Here is Dave Meltzer's analysis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goju - Joe View Post
    Everyone says they're 100%

    And he didn't start the fight and look like **** with a broken rib.

    I am not taking away from Overeem but that was not the best Overeem beating the best Brock. Could Overeem beat the best Brock probably, but the minute I saw Brock throw a weak as leg kick at the beginning I knew he was going to lose.

    Here is Dave Meltzer's analysis.

    http://mma.sbnation.com/2012/1/2/267...rview-mma-news
    I think you're making a lot of unverifiable presumptions. I choose to assume he was 100% due to there being zero evidence to the contrary.

    He looked like **** at the start of the fight because he's not a very good MMA fighter. It seemed apparent to me he was trying to mix up his game to throw Overeem off rather than proceeding with the expected freight train tactic. It backfired on him.

    Edit: I read the article you posted. It's fanboy garbage.
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    Yes he's a terrible fighter who became UFC champ and having 13 inches of intestine cut from his body has no effect on him whatsoever, it's like an ingrown toe nail.
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    Yes he's a terrible fighter who became UFC champ and having 13 inches of intestine cut from his body has no effect on him whatsoever, it's like an ingrown toe nail.
    No. Let's call it like it is. He's just nothing special as far as fighting skill goes. He has two strengths - wrestling and bigmotherfuckerness.

    He scared the **** out of people when he started fighting. He got an unprecedented fast track to the title. That's fine. He was a huge draw. He got thrown in with the big dogs right away, but the flipside is none of them knew **** about him as a fighter. They had to respect every aspect of his game while in reality he wasn't strong in every aspect.

    As soon as they found that weakness he was done. This was going to happen with or without the disease.
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    Yep Lesnar was a huge enigma wrapped in a mystery that confused other fighters.

    Know one expected him to charge, take you down and try and ground and pound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goju - Joe View Post
    Yep Lesnar was a huge enigma wrapped in a mystery that confused other fighters.

    Know one expected him to charge, take you down and try and ground and pound.
    You're being thickheaded intentionally. Of course they expected him to charge for the takedown. What they didn't know was that he would dance away like a drunken ballerina if they fed him a couple good punches.
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    No. Let's call it like it is. He's just nothing special as far as fighting skill goes. He has two strengths - wrestling and bigmotherfuckerness.
    so he has no fighting skill, apart from being a good wrestler. gotcha.
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    You're being thickheaded intentionally. Of course they expected him to charge for the takedown. What they didn't know was that he would dance away like a drunken ballerina if they fed him a couple good punches.
    You mean like when Mir kneed him or Couture fed him upercuts.

    If only people knew I am sure they would have tried harder to hit him instead of uhh.

    Because hitting people in MMA is rare and no one would think to do it or had ever hit Lesnar

    you're making excellent points.
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    so he has no fighting skill, apart from being a good wrestler. gotcha.
    I'm not implying that wrestling isn't a valid fighting skill but I would never classify a one dimensional MMA fighter as a great fighter.
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    so he has no fighting skill, apart from being a good wrestler. gotcha.
    Don't forget Lesnar's glass jaw, just because he survived a beating from a guy who had previously knocked the **** out of almost everyone and managed to win doesn't mean he was tough could take a punch and had heart.
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