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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumble Monster View Post
    Does the low guard help defend takedowns more than not standing sideways would?
    I try not to stand quite sideways, so if that makes it not a Philly shell so be it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMAMickey View Post
    I was thinking this. I would imagine that standing side on with your front arm across your body would make you both vulnerable to single legs and allow people to take your back standing much more easily; although I'd have to give it a try and see..
    This is the relative position where i believe it makes getting an underhook easier.
    Of course itwouldn't have made a difference here, lol.
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    If you want to see a boxer who really looks like he's doing the chun, watch Alexis Arguello.
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    I now really want to hit ChenPengFi. Not for an agressive internet machismo reason just because I don't believe that is a good guard for MMA at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumble Monster View Post
    I now really want to hit ChenPengFi. Not for an agressive internet machismo reason just because I don't believe that is a good guard for MMA at all.
    Fair enough, i defer to your experience.
    Ftr i'm not advocating anything static.
    A simple question however, in the above GSP shot could you see absolutely no advantage to Fitch having his right hand low and closer to GSP's left? (Discounting the impact of the right of course.)
    Many setups involve getting your opponent to raise their guard (like GSP above), if the guard doesn't do that by default, it would seem to have some merit, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PointyShinyBurn View Post
    If you want to see a boxer who really looks like he's doing the chun, watch Alexis Arguello.
    Chun? You're an idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChenPengFi View Post
    could you see absolutely no advantage to Fitch having his right hand low and closer to GSP's left? (Discounting the impact of the right of course.)
    The thing is you can't discount the impact of the right. That is the whole point of the setup. So no I believe not taking an impact like that would be better and having both hands up would have helped.

    EDIT: I just realized you can say that Fitch DID have his hands up but since he still got hit in the face I'm gona go with he needs a better guard with BOTH hands up.
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    Honestly I can't believe this is even being discussed for MMA. Who has ever used this in MMA and done well? The only person I can think of is Toney and he got murdered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumble Monster View Post
    The thing is you can't discount the impact of the right. That is the whole point of the setup. So no I believe not taking an impact like that would be better and having both hands up would have helped.

    EDIT: I just realized you can say that Fitch DID have his hands up but since he still got hit in the face I'm gona go with he needs a better guard with BOTH hands up.
    Point was what you addressed with the edit and that the right doesn't always land yet the takedown can still be effective because the hands are up.
    Being able to establish an underhook earlier seems a reasonable goal, especially with the closer side and especially when cornered, no?
    Look how evasive Mayweather can be with only one hand up, while cornered.
    In mma it's pretty common to try to establish an underhook while pressed back into the cage/ropes.
    It seems like a reasonable crossover.

    Toney? Please that was a novelty match.
    I'd appreciate if you addressed what i am talking about rather than extrapolating that i am advocating using a low lead/Philly shell to the exclusion of other more fundamental strategies, when i clearly stated i am not.
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    So, Cheng, do you actually box?
    "The hero and the coward both feel the same thing, but the hero projects his fear onto his opponent while the coward runs. 'Fear'. It's the same thing, but it's what you do with it that matters". - Cus D'Amato
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