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    seriously, if he ISNT out of this fight after that i would be shocked.
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    Prepare to be shocked then. I'm guessing this will go thru.

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    -Overeem has been sworn in and has promised to tell the truth.

    -Overeem apologizes for the situation. He says there were three factors involved: 1: His mother's situation and moving his camp to Holland. 2: this was his first UFC fight and 3: The testing procedures in Holland vary compared to the testing procedures in America. He says he took a streroid test immediately upon hearing they wanted it. He got the results 10 days later and was informed by NSAC that he needed another test.

    -Overeem says he took his blood test with his own doctor. The commission questions why they weren't done in a lab.

    -Overeem says he's never taken steroid test like this before so this is new to him.

    -Overeem says he was informed of his mother's condition two days before he left. He did the UFC Countdown show first before flying out. He finished taping and went straight to the airport.

    -Overeem says he was informed by his assistant about the test either Saturday or Sunday but didn't find out that he had to take the test immediately until even later. He says he had no knowledge about the NSAC requesting a test before he flew to Holland on the 17th.

    -Overeem took his first test in a facility and took a blood sample. He says they asked for the blood sample, he gave them one and he thought he was done. When he got the results, he sent them to his assistant who then sent the results to Keith Kizer. He heard that the test was insufficient from his assistant and that he'd have to redo the test. He says he redid the test the next morning.

    -Overeem says he was informed that he had to retake the test one week ago on Tuesday, the 6th of December and then he went in for another test on the 7th of December.
    Still could go either way at this stage. Pity I can't stream the audio at work, need to go get some earphones.
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    His story sounds pretty locked down. I mean, it seems kind of obvious that this feels like an attempt to avoid pissing hot but it also seems like they are going to let this go through.
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    so returning the wrong test for a random drug test 3 weeks AFTER you are supposed to is ok? they cant let this happen. setting this as a precedent basically fucks the whole system.

    regardless of the **** with his mum etc, hes a pro athlete. all he does is this. there is no way he didnt know what to do, and no way his management didnt know what to do.
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    They better let him play - that Overeem roids is as plain as the nose on his comically overgrown moonface, but I'd still love to see how he'd do against the top heavyweights in the UFC, despite how much I hate his guts.

    Extremely surprised that he got caught at this, though. He's been competing professionally for years, managing his cycles should be second nature to him by now.
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    They're already talking about conditional licensing. It looks like this one is going through.
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    -Overeem, under oath, says he made no efforts to avoid taking the tests and that he did everything his assistants relayed to him. He's doing a lot of deflecting onto his assistants.

    -Overeem says he bought the ticket to get back to Holland on the 15th. This could be his saving grace, we'll see.

    -Overeem says he's never had to take it upon himself to take a test before. He just provided urine samples before and after fights for the commission at the venue.

    -Overeem's assistant is on the line. We'll see if he lies down on a sword for him. He admits that he's got a full-time job on the side of being his assistant and is based in San Francisco.

    -Assistant says he called to inform Overeem's manager, he didn't pick up. He sent an e-mail with the message. He says he didn't hear about a timeframe that Overeem needed to take the test upon being informed.
    Seems he's putting the assistant forward as the sacrificial lamb. These arguments haven't held sway when Aussie athletes have had drug bans imposed, be interesting to see how the NSAC approach it.

    -Assistant says he doesn't work with other athletes and hasn't dealt with commissions before.

    -Overeem says he didn't do any testing with the UFC when he went under contract with them for this fight.

    -They will go into deliberations now.

    -Commission says there was an unfortunate lack of urgency coming from Overeem and his camp in response to the random steroid test request.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawarma View Post
    They better let him play - that Overeem roids is as plain as the nose on his comically overgrown moonface, but I'd still love to see how he'd do against the top heavyweights in the UFC, despite how much I hate his guts.

    Extremely surprised that he got caught at this, though. He's been competing professionally for years, managing his cycles should be second nature to him by now.
    well he often doesnt fight in america so doesnt get tested. also, there are many ways to get around having traces of roids in the system. such as pretending you were doing other **** when you had a random drug test asked for
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    -Commission says there was an unfortunate lack of urgency coming from Overeem and his camp in response to the random steroid test request.

    -It sounds like they are going to grant Overeem a license conditionally. He'll have to take more tests and then be tested for the next six months.

    -The commission is also discussing future punitive measures if you don't respond and take your test in a timely manner.
    what a total fucking cop out. dont get me wrong, i couldnt care less if these guys are doing drugs since most of them are anyway (and his opponent is lesnar ffs, lololol) but if you are gonna have a commision like this, make it have some fucking backbone. nobody misses a drug test by 3 fucking weeks unless they are guilty.
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