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  1. Sorekara is offline

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    Kano's Ogoshi ?

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but, this is Ogoshi starting at 1:05 in this video.
    Why is Kano's throw different than the way we're taught? Maybe this is something a little different?

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    It doesn't look like o goshi, because it's uki goshi.

    Edit: at least that's what it looks like to me... he does do o goshi at 53 and 1.26 though. Maybe he was demonstrating the difference to the students?
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    Wow, so Kano invented magic pants too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lu Tze View Post
    It doesn't look like o goshi, because it's uki goshi.

    Edit: at least that's what it looks like to me... he does do o goshi at 53 and 1.26 though. Maybe he was demonstrating the difference to the students?
    That might be it. More specifically look at Kano's hips. He's in the middle of uke rather than square with his hips.
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    'Bending back' the okuden of Kodokan koshi waza.

    Its Uki goshi, not O goshi. Uki goshi was apparently Kano's tokuiwaza.

    Watch 2:08-2:30 of this videos



    See how tori 'bends back' as part of his tsukuri.

    Consult Daigo's Kodokan throwing techniques pages 83 to 85.

    Uki goshi

    'At this moment, tori lowers his right shoulder and, bending his body back, inserts his arm through uke's left armpit, along the back of his belt, and holds the back of the waist...'

    From page 85 accompanying a still frame by frame breakdown of Kano performing Uki goshi from the video you posted.

    'Tori holds and supports uke, bending back with the back of his right hip on the front of uke's hip (lower abdomen)'
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    12/07/2011 4:16pm


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    Okay, I see it now. I couldn't see the way kano's hips were turned. Cool! Thanks for the replies.

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