12/12/2011 7:25am, #101
Stop quoting SirC, please. I put him on ignore for a reason.
By now, I feel Jones Haters are entering "pre-decline Fedor hater territory." You know, when people claimed Fedor was totally washed up for failing to destroy then top-10 opponents within the first six seconds like he did Zuluzinho but still beat them handily in less time than it takes to cook spaghetti? That's how damn good Jones is, when he fails to shoot lasers from his eyes and fireballs from his ass and incinerate his opponent, people will claim he's overrated.
I don't see what the big deal is with Jones' supposedly being a dick. If anything, he seems to be have a vaguely boring personality and doesn't feel especially comfortable hamming it up for the cameras like Sonnen, Ortiz or Jackson does. Personally, I like this in a fighter. Shut up and kick ass, please.
12/12/2011 7:52am, #102
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Train more, talk less.Originally Posted by Sarcastro
12/12/2011 9:06am, #103
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i'd disagree with your sentiments.
you mean to say having a 20lb weight difference doesn't help when you snap on the kimura, and plant your leg over their head? and then, when they manage a turn over, to pressure their arm to force them to roll? i can pull smaller guys towards me, so to speak, when i go for a kimura. you feel no more power with the hold when rolling with someone 20lbs lighter?
i mean, yes, i know there are technical ways to get it on someone no matter what their size is, but i feel that a weight difference gives an undeniable upper hand. perhaps this is a misconception due to having a 260lb purple belt who is unkimurable due to his flexibility (ridiculously bendy) and gets it on everyone but one of the browns.
12/12/2011 10:24am, #104
Jones is fast becoming the Usaine Bolt of MMA. That was ridiculous.
Macheda did well implementing his gameplan in the first half, even so Jones came out of the fight completely unscathed (not even a mark on his face).
A while ago I predicted that Rashed would be the man to dethrone Jones (i still think he's the best candidate) now though i'm not soo sure anyone is going to beat him in this division.
12/12/2011 11:06am, #105
I'll probably get **** for repeating something I posted over on Sociocide, but here goes:
The morning after UFC 140, I heard two fight fans lamenting the fact that pro MMA was going to be dominated by "genetic freaks" like Jones. Pretty much the same **** I'd heard when Lesnar first showed up to the sport.
What did these fans think was going to happen?
Compare the size and physiques of American-football players from the leatherhead days with the sheer mass of the players on today's NFL fields.
Look at basketball players from Naismith's time, and then look at the giants in the present-day NBA.
How about original-six-teams players of the early NHL versus the behemoths on today's pro hockey rinks?
Pro sport: big-money, mass-entertainment, get asses in seats.
Why would anyone think pro MMA might evolve any differently? Did these two unhappy fight-fans really think pro MMA was some sort of 'everyman-sport'? Newsflash: the "Royce-versus-bigger-guys-who-weren't-wise-to-his-methods" days are prehistory in media terms. The adoption of weight classes wouldn't change the course of events, as Jones' presence as a light-heavy-weight attests.
Professional sport is the province of genetic anomalies. People who are unsatisfied with this state of affairs--who don't want to see evolutionary sideshow-freaks pitted against each other--have the option of spending their entertainment dollars elsewhere. What's the point of whining?
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12/12/2011 11:36am, #106
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Most NFL players don't have what it takes emotionally and intellectually to be a successful quarterback. Every MMA fighter has to be the quarterback, so to speak. I think this will always give fighters with superior skill and strategy a chance, even if they aren't as physically gifted as their opponent.
12/12/2011 11:41am, #107
To be fair, Jones has also freak skill, not just freak athleticism. So it's not completely analog to the Champ Brock lamenting.go to http://www.bullshido.net/forums/prof...do=editoptions > under Thread Display Options > Number of Posts to Show Per Page: 40
12/12/2011 11:43am, #108
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Agreed, definitely. Obviously, the best case scenario is a fighter who has both. Jones, GSP, etc.
12/12/2011 1:55pm, #109
landing a couple of kicks and a punch which do absolutely NOTHING is not schooling anyone.
school school school
12/12/2011 1:58pm, #110
I wish your mom would've gotten raped with you and elected for an abortion so we didn't have to deal with this ****.