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  1. Miguksaram is offline
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    TKD Fighter,

    How old is GM Lee? Also his history of TKD is very wrong. However, it is the history that the KKW wants all of the Korean masters to tell everyone to instill Korean pride. Also what kwan did GM Lee belong to?

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    Becasue Lee, Park, Kim are common last names in Korea like Smith, Jones, and Johnson is here in the US.

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    >You would think that since Americans have been in Korea since the 50's (at least we still have a presence below the 38th parallel) that some of these Korean masters would be named "Smith" or "Jones"....LOL

    Ah you no spend time in korea. We all know you find nice korean girl, marry her them bring to land of big PX. Then she brings family, divorces you and start knew life!!!

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    miguk, i don't know what kwan he is originaly from but he was one of the founders of tkd and he was one of the first people to spread it around like joon rhee. their are still 40 or so schools in korea under him. i don't know how old he is but i think he is like in his late 60's.
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    I can tell you that he is not one of the founding members of TKD. He may have been with one of the original kwans and a student of one of the founding memebers. I am geared to say that he was in the Chungdokwan since they were one of the first to send out people to expand TKD.

    It is possible for him to be a legit 9th dan since he meets the age requirements as well as the technical requirements. If he is the one that is teaching, then take full advantadge of his lessons. Tap him for his history knowledge as well. His generation are slowly dying out and with them the truth of TKD is dying as well.

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    From the looks of things the 9th degree was probably not awarded to him from the Kukiwan per se. His name does not sound familiar and I bow down to Jeremy when it comes down to the history of TKD, I'll have my friend take a look at the histroy and give ya a hefty possible counter point.
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    It would be nice to know what J.J. stands for. From that I could figure out what part he took in developing TKD. I just know that out of the original kwans that formed the foundation of TKD, J.J. Lee doesn't ring a bell. Yes there were a couple Lee's that helped but J.J. weren't their initials.

    Please understand TKD I am not calling GM Lee a fraud. I am just saying that he wasn't an original founder of TKD. He may have had a hand in the developement though. :)

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    i think it's like jae joon or somthing. it is very possible that he is a fruad.
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    11/23/2002 9:23pm

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    I will check back on my records but I do know that Lee, Jae-joon (if that is his name), definetly was not a Founder nor was he part of the 2nd generation Kwanjangs. I will let you know what I find out. I can only go to the 3rd or 4th generations with the information that I have.


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