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I wonder if it is puncture resistant? It could be good for hiking through sharp desert scrub.
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Posted On:
11/29/2011 10:56pm
Style: FMA, dumbek, Indian clubs--
If it's not super expensive and its comfortable, I'd absolutely like to get some knife resistant clothes. My main hobbies in life are hiking, skateboarding and FMA, and I think that could be useful in avoiding the sharp edges of all 3. This is before getting into tacticool fantasies where street punks are trying to cut me (they should make a turtleneck to protect from zombies and vampires).
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11/30/2011 12:56am
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From wikipedia:
The tests are done with an edge that is loaded with weight and drawn across the fabric. 27.8 Newtons, the number they're so happy about, is not very much force at all. Something on the order of 7 pounds.
Puncture Resistance
Cut-Tex PRO does not offer puncture resistance, as it is a knitted fabric. However Cut-Tex PRO is commonly used for cut resistant gloves, and during the manufacturing process of cut resistant gloves additional materials are used to offer BS EN ISO 388:2003 Puncture Resistance Level 4 - the highest possible. -
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11/30/2011 3:14am
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For now, let's just say I'm highly skeptical.
I've taken a knife to those handy dandy industrial kevlar sleeves wrapped around a chunk of really nasty tasting summer sausage and had it go through with no appreciable resistance. I had a few strands of fabric folded over the knife edge, but that was all it showed for slowing the blade. Those are rated at a cut resistance of 3, which is 5 newtons. Granted, these are rated at 27.8 newtons, but I don't see that an additional 5 and change pounds of resistance will help much. I can't see a situation where a motivated attacker in reasonable shape (like not infirm) would be unable to generate well over the required amount of force. The video on their site looked pretty good, but I want to see that knife whipping across the guy's stomach before I'd trust this product with my life.
It does need to be said that we don't know how sharp the test blade is for ISO 13997:1999. Against a fairly blunt knife it'll probably offer some decent protection, but if someone keeps their knives sharp I think all these shirts will do is make it harder for the paramedics to cut it off to get at your wounds.
Thing is, I don't think they'll be cheap and I certainly don't want to pay for one and then cut it up. -
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Posted On:
11/30/2011 6:02am
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Cut Resistance Level
Dear All
Please be assured that 27.8 Newton of cut resistance is exceptional. Right now Cut-Tex PRO offers the highest level of cut resistance of any textile/fabric available.
You will not be able to cut the fabric with a Stanley/carpet knife, so I think it is fair to say that it certainly will increase your chance of coming home safely when being slashed by an idiot carrying a kitchen knife or similar edged weapon.
Our cut resistant garments are worn by police, prison, mental health care and other frontline professionals... and there is a good reason why.
Take good care.
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Posted On:
11/30/2011 7:21am--
It may afford some protection in risky situations, but it's not a magic bullet. I would not trust my life to this, alone.
I think the key, here, is that their marketing calls it "slash resistant," not knife-proof. They have a completely different line of clothing which is "stab vests." That alone should answer any questions about how this clothing should be used. -
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Posted On:
11/30/2011 7:34am
Style: mma /boxing/muai thai--
I have always liked the Idea. But have never bitten the bullet and got one. Personally I would be happy with a bit of slash proofiness for things like bottles. More than rambo killers.
Would help with the lava and aids needles on the street too.
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Posted On:
11/29/2011 9:25pm
Style: Grappling
Slash-Resistant Clothing Protects Taxi Drivers From Violent Knife Attacks