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  1. PowerfulFellow is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharabus View Post
    I have no real experience with this so I ask with genuine interest, do those uke genuinely believe they are under the influence of qi? Has anyone ever had a sensible discussion with one of these guys? I just find it hard to believe anyone actually believes it

    p.s.

    If anyone knows one of these guys can you let them know I have a bridge for sale in London?
    I would argue to say that the power of suggestion outweighs the power of QI... Well 100:1.
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    I’d guess it’s similar to stage hypnosis, which does not operate via any trance but rather suggestion, participant compliace due to expectation and pressure from the audience to perform, and so on; along with good old peer pressure and deference to authority: “All these senior students are affected by his powers, and he’s such a wise and respected old master, that it must be true. I’ll feel it any moment. There, I feel something, that must be the magical power!” The martial arts frauds of course have the advantage of working on the same victims for a very long time, so they have it easier than stage hypnotists, who may have to work on brand new participants every show. I wonder how common it is among these jokers to demonstrate these things only on, say, black belts or other senior students who have had plenty of time to become indoctrinated.

    Still, it would be very interesting to hear an inside account, i.e. someone who used to believe in this stuff; and it would be interesting to see a real analysis; perhaps by a skeptic magician. I bet Derren Brown or Penn & Teller could come up with interesting things to say about it.
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    Aiki jutso Soke Yamai demonstrating his awesome QI POWERRRR

    Where was he when Tyson fought in Tokyo??? I'd like to have seen them meet in the Ring.
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    Posted On:
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    supporting member

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    Aiki jutso Soke Yamai demonstrating his awesome QI POWERRRR

    Wish our dojo was that big.
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    that seems legit


    yeah it sucks how some of the shittiest places quality wise have some of the best facilities.

    Interestingly, this phenomenon is transcultural. I was watching an episode of No Reservations taking place in Thailand and they had the exact same **** going on there. The segment started off with some legit, if not parlor trickish, stuff (like judo shopping lead plates, etc), but then went into their 'control the spirit' of the other man qi/ki/IS type bullshit. The commentator was somewhat speechless and you could tell he was trying hard not to talk bad about what he was seeing.
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    forum leader

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    HIIIIGHTSSSSSS!!!!

    I am now controlling your Qi.
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    Ups to Battlefields for dropping the sage wisdom.

    You are like a Pimp Yoda.
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    Battlefields... You're more of a man than I am.
    GET A RED BELT OR DIE TRYIN'.
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    supporting member

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    Aiki jutso Soke Yamai demonstrating his awesome QI POWERRRR

    looks legit to me, he should fight anderson silva. i think he could win.
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    supporting member

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    Oh ****, I can't un-see that. I want to kick that uke's ass so badly...so badly.
    HASN'T HE BEEN THROUGH ENOUGH!?!?!?
    Quote Originally Posted by Pharabus View Post
    I have no real experience with this so I ask with genuine interest, do those uke genuinely believe they are under the influence of qi? Has anyone ever had a sensible discussion with one of these guys? I just find it hard to believe anyone actually believes it

    p.s.

    If anyone knows one of these guys can you let them know I have a bridge for sale in London?
    they want to believe it, and they know what's expected of them. so, they go along with it, and convince themselves it's real.
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    yeah, normally i'd get a quote, but couldn't be bothered.
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    Posted On:
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    I would be happy to fight him as another master of my Ki. It'd just be the two of us grimacing and KiHap-ing for hours across the ring until he finally concedes my Ki dicks all over his Ki. And turkey slaps it as well.
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    Ups to Battlefields for dropping the sage wisdom.

    You are like a Pimp Yoda.
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    Battlefields... You're more of a man than I am.
    GET A RED BELT OR DIE TRYIN'.
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    Aiki jutso Soke Yamai demonstrating his awesome QI POWERRRR

    Basically, I come to Bullshido once in a while to see videos like this.
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