Posted On:11/17/2011 7:02am
I just ran across this website and it made me curious. I never knew that tibetans had kung-fu in their culture but anyway my question is - has anybody heard of or trained with this gentleman - Tsun Tsun Hsue ?
here's the website:
Posted On:11/18/2011 2:28am
No CMA guys have responded yet so i'll throw in my two cents. The website portrays the typical image of a new age/eastern mysticism guru. There is little information about the lineage of the system which is major cause for concern. The prices listed seem to be astronimical, the site lists:
Three are 3 levels in the Tibetan method. Usually it takes about 10 years to complete the 3 levels, I have sped up the process. It still takes time. The cost usually is very high. About 10,000 US dollars. I have tried to make it reasonable and accessible for everyone.
Level 1 $750
Level 2 $800
Level 3 $1200
If you do it with the empty force and chi kung training it may be done more quickly and may be less expensive per punch through.
They claim the instruction is worth $10,000.00? But through this site you can get all that quality instruction for less time and money. Red flag! This site may be worthy of an MABS investigation here in the respective forum.
The ridiculous prices go on into therapies and treatments and other BS:
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Seriously, I hope the OP didn't really read through the site completely. Nothing about this place comes off as legitimate. This guy is out to make money without documentation of any education or credentials. He may have been born in Hong Kong, I doubt that's even true.
Posted On:11/18/2011 11:54am
Style: stick,Taiji, mountainbike
In every description of anything Kung Fu realated on the site, it just uses general descriptions if anything. There is conveniently no lineage listed anywhere to verify and the "Sun Dragon Golden Snake system" is not pulling up under any search that I've tried. The only martial arts pucture that they showed kind of looked like Tai Chi, or veriation thereof.
Most of the site seemed more about spiritualism and stuff like that. If you are looking at it for martial arts, I would keep on looking.
Combatives training log.
Gezere: paraphrase from Bas Rutten, Never escalate the level of violence in fight you are losing. :D
Pavel Tsatsouline: kettlebell workouts give you “cardio without the dishonour of aerobics”.
Posted On:11/18/2011 1:44pm
Style: Cheng Man Ching Taijiquan
The site is currently blocked for me, but I'll take a close look later. Generally, if it's not Lion's Roar, or something Baobom related, be skeptical. Very skeptical. If it IS Baobom related, make sure it's not run by an Asanaro affiliate.
More to come.
Kama Sutra blue belt.
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Posted On:11/18/2011 7:16pm
Ok, just something that comes off as weird, he uses a lot of Chinese terminology for something that has abundant Tibetan terminology.
They don't call it Kung fu or Qi Gong... or rather I'd say it would be extremely unusual for them to do so.
I'd stay far away from this guy, at least until you run this by a local Tibetan Cultural center, there's one almost in every major state. Unfortunately my source of information has been less than willing, so I'm afraid that's as much info as I can provide.
We would need someone more familiar with Tibetan culture, language, and the like, to go over this one.
Posted On:11/18/2011 8:10pm
I'm surprised none of you commented on the "Mystery School" page. That is runaway time right there.
Posted On:11/18/2011 8:36pm
Style: Hung Gar, Choy Lay Fut
Soul Retrieval $100-150
So maybe there's hope for me after all!
Quite reasonable too.
Sarcasm aside, i see that Rockaway Bch., OR seminar coming up.
Garibaldi clams are awesome. Lots of feasting potential there.
Not so sure about that Tzun Tzun guy however, and February is too early. Brrrrr...
Nothing for Show, All for use
Posted On:11/18/2011 8:47pm
Style: Jook Lum South Mantis,
Most of the REAL tibetan named martial arts are not actually Tibetan, many attached the name of Tibet to their systems to add a rather large dose of Mystique as it was hard to get there, and still is.
The legends state otherwise, but you do not see any Tibetans practicing Tibetan White Crane, Or Tibetan Lama Pai.
Interesting. It was marketing, and you know how the Chinese like to create all manner of silly terms for techniques and such.......
Posted On:11/18/2011 8:52pm
If only we had more Tibetan sanda...
Posted On:11/18/2011 11:18pm
Yeah, I saw the mystery school stuff too! I also googled the golden dragon association or whatever it was and the only thing I saw was one in Australia that is into magic! So I figured I would leave it alone....just in case!
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