11/28/2011 9:56am, #21
11/28/2011 4:04pm, #22
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11/28/2011 4:40pm, #23
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Actually that makes a LOT of sense.
I can most certainly eat a cake and say "it needs more eggs" or "It has too much flour"
And you most certainly can say, "you should have used a better butter in this cake"
Any moderately descent baker can tell you that
The notion that the quality of the ingredients doesnīt affect the quality of the cake is moronic at best.
Donīt know how much you know about martial arts, but you obviously donīt know much about cakes.
11/28/2011 5:21pm, #24
It's the same thing when someone does and throw and it's described as a "judo throw" even though every form of grappling does has the same technique, not to mention the fact that that throw is invented every day on school yards by kids who have never heard of judo and can't spell wrestling. Arbitrarily mapping every movement in an MMA match into some OTHER SPORT makes discussing it much harder, as the OP and his buddy have discovered.
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Some fighters are known for their jiujitsu, and some are known for their wrestling. Both are grapplers, so why make this distinction? Would you prefer to know that your opponent's background is in wrestling, or judo, or jiujitsu, or sambo? Or would you prefer that you just know they're a grappler? I'd prefer the former.
11/28/2011 5:45pm, #25
IMO within mma fighting, someone using hands better has better boxing. I wouldn't call them a boxer, unless they'd competed at some level in that particular sport, but they are using boxing, as we tend to group things. We being me, I guess. If they train boxing specifically as part of their regimen, then yes, they are boxers in a sense, but perhaps it's better to distinguish between competing and training in, when assigning them an identity.
Using aspects of a skillset, and being active in that sport aren't the same. That doesn't mean we can't/shouldn't use the term boxing for what they are doing. Dos Santos boxed the **** out of Cain. Yes he used other things, but that overhand was FIYAH.
I'm not an Australian Footballer just cos I can grab someone and pull them down. Perhaps that's a good (drinking: drinking..."makes sense with beer") compromise. GSP has better Australian Footballing that these other "wrestlers".
11/29/2011 8:22am, #26
Now you're ignoring the last letter; Mixed Martial Arts.
Actually it's more along the lines of a tapenade quartet.
Sometimes the olive stuff sucks, sometimes not. Maybe the hummus over here is good but the white beans not so much.
The proportions and quality of each ingredient are independent.
Same goes for MMA.
I can also certainly pick out poor, missing or underrepresented ingredients in a recipe i am familiar with; and even discuss elements in one that i am not.
Case in point, yesterday i ate here for lunch: Downtown @ the HISAM
I commented to my lunch date that the Campari in the sorbet was a little too forward and alcoholic tasting, and that the white chocolate ginger in the strawberry crisp was a little odd but good.
The pan-roasted monchong was over the top delicious and we both were surprised on how the sear came out but the fish was still moist.
Discussing individual elements is fine so long as you can discern them.
12/01/2011 12:17pm, #27
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12/01/2011 12:52pm, #28
12/02/2011 12:11pm, #29
12/03/2011 7:18pm, #30
I'm very surprised no one has come bellowing in to announce that there are no such things as "Judo throws" in Mixed Martial Arts, because to do proper judo, one must use X and Y grips on the judogi, and as there are no more judogis allowed in the Octagon (and it's various non trademarked spin offs)....