11/16/2011 6:11pm, #61
And you can't really base intelligence off of joblessness. The joblessness rate among college graduates is higher than it has been since 1970. And really, does it matter if the others are stupid? We're not telling these people to divine the solutions to nation's problems; we're counting on them to be loud enough that the people capable of solving the problems take the matter seriously.
11/16/2011 6:22pm, #62
There are lots of jobs out there, all the major multinationals across all sectors are still recruiting as a big national and regional companies.
There are also lots of jobs in smaller companies for graduates. Nearly 10,000 advertised here:
The issue for graduates is that they have been convinced that going to university guarantees them either a sexy high status job as a commercial lawyer in London or slick PR exec, whereas the reality is most graduates don't get or go into those jobs they work as managers in factories or as accountants in small regional firms etc....
So there are jobs that graduates aren't applying for because they think they're beneath them.
The other flip side is the non-graduate young un-employed. In the UK, have been simultaneously let down by the education system which has failed to equip them with basic skills needed to succeed in the work place and instead channelled them into a dumbed down curriculum geared towards trying to get people into
polytechnicssorry Universities when they would have been much better suited on a vocationally minded curriculum.
Thus they have had the bar set for them inappropriately, have failed to gain skills needed for appropriate non-graduate jobs and have been conned into thinking they are now entitled to a job.
A pretty sorry state of affairs which the majority of blame is not attributable to the current economic climate, but the lunatic social engineering schemes of the previous decade long government.
11/16/2011 6:23pm, #63
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You're right, things are easier when you're married and have someone else to count on. Another important life decision overlooked by many.
Obviously, you are a failure at networking. My wife didn't kiss anyone's ass. To the contrary, she has been pursued by a potential employer for quite some time because someone she has worked with in the past knows she would be an asset to her company. All my wife had to do was give her a call, and she had the job. Networking.
11/16/2011 6:25pm, #64
Like I said comrade, there are jobs available, but not everyone will want them.
I had to do a number of them right after college, before I could get a "real job." Yeah, it sucked, but also, it didnt kill me.
The harsh reality of life is, no one is entitled to anything. Like it or not, you have to work for everything, no one will just hand you anything.
11/16/2011 6:31pm, #65
11/16/2011 6:39pm, #66
Hey, I'm one of the weird ones that straddles the left wing/ right wing fence, I have a curious mix borne of a left wing supporting mother (Occupational Health and Safety Consultant) and a right wing father (Electrician/ business owner).
I have no doubt that eventually the idiots, sorry, the majority will benefit from (lesser) opportunities from the trickle down effect, I just wish they'd shut their fucking mouths and let the intelligent ones speak in order to give the movement credence. You can talk about being loud enough to be heard all you like, but all I hear is everyone laughing at the morons flapping their gums whose primary purpose is to stop [something they have no idea about] in order to get more [something they have no idea about].
It doesn't matter that people are stupid, it really doesn't, they can be stupid with their stupid faces doing stupid things all day for all I care. Hell, there is an entire website set up for them to showcase how stupid they are (for some great examples: failbook.org, lamebook.com, etc). I'm happy that they want to be involved in societal change, really happy. They must realise through the haze of unintelligence that something ain't right when Mr CEO makes more money per minute sitting in an office than someone can make in a lifetime busting their hump to retire with nothing and die in government housing with a body wracked in pain from years of slaving in manual labour. I just wish they'd shut the **** up if they don't know what they are talking about, because being heard is not the same as being loud in this instance. And don't rate graduating college as a measure of intelligence, please. With the right kind of gumption, well below average intelligence students can graduate college.
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11/16/2011 6:41pm, #67
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1. People are bigger pussies than ever before.
2. Brainwashing about equality. People have been deluded into thinking everyone should be able to drive a Mercedes and live in a palace. Expectations are too high. People overextend themselves trying to obtain **** that is beyond their means. When they can't make it happen they blame it on the economy.
3. Bullshit college degrees. Motherfuckers get a degree from Phoenix online and think they can go compete with a guy who went to Princeton. Wrong. We get a bunch of stats about college grads who can't get jobs, but a fuckton of them went to Mickey Mouse University.
11/16/2011 6:47pm, #68
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No, I'm not comparing sleeping in the park with rape.
Just seemed like this thread was about wether the movement would amount to anything. Thus far your sole rebuttle to everything said has been to ham up the plight of the protestors as if their suffering made their viewpoints more legitimate.
11/16/2011 6:52pm, #69
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And they get the wrong degrees while paying too much for them. STEM (Science technology engineering and mathematics) degrees are where the jobs are-especially computer science and electrical engineering. It's a nerd's world; the rest of you just live in it. Also credentials =/= skills.
11/16/2011 7:05pm, #70
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I can't tell you how sad it makes me to hear someone getting a Psychology major expecting to make $50,000 a year with a bachelors.