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    Quote Originally Posted by Odacon View Post
    They had Nascar-style bjj gi's back in 1993?
    Dude they are made there... who knows how long they hold their secrets.

    *edit*

    Oh and I love that match with the repeated body slams... poor man.
    Quote Originally Posted by ghost55 View Post
    Violence is pretty uncommon in clubs in this area, and the dude didn't seem particularly hostile up until the moment he slapped me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    **** dude you know how many years we've been looking for this in my old style? This came on TV with someone who owned one of those huge Satellite dishes. After a while I thought it was just Bullshit.
    This old Ron Van Clief match in Hong Kong is probably more like what came in off the satellite:

    “Most people do not do, but take refuge in theory and talk, thinking that they will become good in this way” -- Aristotle, Nicomachean Ethics, II.4

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    Conan Lee wow I thought that was him. Yeah I think it was like that. No, it was in Taiwan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    Yeah I think it was like that. No, it was in Taiwan.
    They've been doing fights like the Van Cleef one in Taiwan for at least 40 years. Cartmell, Patterson, &c, fought in them when they were training at Xu Hongji's Tang Shou Tao school. At least one of the fighters in that new set of videos is listed as coming from the same system.

    *** EDIT ***

    Also, here's a brief description of how they trained at that school:

    When I trained with Xu Hongji and in the Shen Long Tangshoudao school in Taipei group classes went like this:

    An hour or so of warm ups and conditioning exercises (including a lot of core work on the mat, the set of "Tian Gan," and lots of variations of push ups).

    Rolling and falling (rolls up and down the mat, breakfalls, jumping over objects into rolls and breakfalls and various Judo mat crossings).

    Jump Kicks (doing various jumping kicks up and down the mat).

    Stance Holding (most often Santishi).

    Forms practice.

    Specific technique practice.

    Sparring drills and free sparring (sometimes we practiced only standing wrestling, or just striking, sometimes free sparring in gear, and sometimes the more advanced students practiced Rou Shou).

    Classes lasted close to three hours.
    Last edited by Jack Rusher; 11/18/2011 4:29pm at . Reason: MOAR INFO.
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    @Jack Rusher, what a great find! I believe the person in the first video is Warren Wang, who founded the Taiwan BJJ club (first club of its kind there) in 2003, and apparently had a couple of years in the US w/ Carley Gracie before moving out to Taiwan to pursue medical studies. I spent a couple of days with them in 2006 while visiting on vacation - a very good group of folks.

    Anyway, Warren is a purple belt now, and his club doing very well in Taipei. This must have been one of the ways Warren was promoting the club when he first started. Thanks for the great post!

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    I swear that location looks familiar.

    Tainan?

    Don't remember the Budweiser sign though.

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