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  1. #11

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Sometimes when you break a hand you don't feel it at the moment. It's
    afterward when it resembles a puffed up toad with appendages that the
    real pain starts.

    A lot of "hard guys" that run around assaulting folks have never really
    been hit hard to the body , or at least not since the eighth grade and
    Wanda Sue with the braces anyway , simply doubling up on the liver
    hook can at times be quite advantageous , likewise with the previously
    cited leg kicks.

    And insofar as it goes I think if the choice is a broken hand and getting
    away versus an assbeating...well.

    YMMV

  2. #12

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    i think the REAL answer is to just roll with your hands taped whenever you step outside.

    and if you got a girl dressed like a ring girl- you are even more badass!

  3. #13

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluto Blutarsky View Post
    you know there is a risk you will break your ankle when you kick too....

    That I know, and I think it goes with the rest of what you were saying about proper training... if you kick with your instep there are a lot of small bones on the top of the foot that can be broken, but you are not very likely to break anything if you kick with your shin (although if it is checked expertly, and you haven't conditioned your bones, you could break your tibia... highly unlikely in a street fight though).

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!

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    kyokushin is not a self defense art, its a sport.
    the reason they do not punch to the face is because its too easy a high kick or knee takes more skill.

    eliminating punches to the head forces participants break each other down and you most likely have to take punisment that is the kyokushin way

    i hold a second degree in kyokushin and this is how it was told to me.
    i do like the idea of breaking each other down and testing how much you can take

    i disagree with punching to the face being to easy ince its not easy to hit a trained fighter in the face with full force

    in response to the video, meh...each his own.
    i get his opinion personally i never broke my hand from punching in a brawl

    also why fight at all just run

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    Here is my 10c's worth

    When striking a hard part of your adversaries body use a soft part of your hand i.e. hammer fist

    When striking a soft part of your adversaries body use hard part of your hand i.e. knuckles

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    I was just watching Bas's Punk Payback, and he seems to advocate the palm-heal strike a lot. I like the idea too of hit hard parts with soft and sort parts with hard. I think bas's attraction to using elbows, knees, and palms is that he's a very tall guy and these things decrease his disadvantage at close range.

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    every time I got in a bare-knuckle fight (only a few times in my life) I always regret it for at least a week because my hand always gets badly swollen. One of the biggest reasons, I think, is because my bones have the durability of a chicken. They just break so fucking easily. Have to remind myself to use palm strikes next time (although I hope I never have to use it outside the gym)

    I've been taught that palm strikes to the head are pretty useful, not only because it reduces the risk of hand injuries, but also because the palm is able to deliver the impact more wholly on a spherical surface. My instructor compared it to hitting a volleyball.

  9. #19

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    Don't punch you can break your hand, don't kick cause its too risky, and don't grapple cause lava and stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdgeWalker View Post
    I've been taught that palm strikes to the head are pretty useful, not only because it reduces the risk of hand injuries, but also because the palm is able to deliver the impact more wholly on a spherical surface. My instructor compared it to hitting a volleyball.
    My krav instructor would agree with that but he does teach a more defensive variant. (Main stance has hands open). Whatever works I guess.
    Last edited by Rzero; 11/15/2011 8:36am at .

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