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  1. SmH is offline

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    Ouch, this video makes me sad! No, JJ doesn't have to look like this. If they don't train anything else and you're not having fun with it...well, I wouldn't go again.
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    Posted On:
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    I think the sequence he's describing may just be blocking, overhooking, and then throwing with osotogari.
    We did stuff like this a fair amount in my old BJJ club; it was a decent enough way to introduce basic takedowns/etc to noobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cualltaigh View Post
    By straight up in the air do you mean like this?


    Also, did the name of the school contain any of the following:
    - Freestyle;
    - Combat;
    - Street Defense;
    - Modern;
    - Real?
    Self-Defence JuJitsu, and yes the freddie mercury block. I've been hit with a hook many times and not once did I think of throwing my arm directly up like some sort of nazi salute. Where do these guys get off teaching this stuff?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMcClaw View Post
    I think the sequence he's describing may just be blocking, overhooking, and then throwing with osotogari.
    We did stuff like this a fair amount in my old BJJ club; it was a decent enough way to introduce basic takedowns/etc to noobs.
    I know the one you're talking about, the first one we teach to beginner's is essentially the same but we do a half clinch instead of an overhook* (though I do like the overhook idea). Though we do it from 'haymakers' instead of hooks. Far more practical than what I think he is describing.

    I also know the 'walk around' movements he's talking about. Firstly they should only be done for a straight punch (not a jab though because if they're not committed you'll never get round). And secondly would never teach it to e beginner as the footwork and timing are complex at best and it's hard enough to get n00bs to block properly to begin with.

    Quote Originally Posted by jasperroe View Post
    Self-Defence JuJitsu, and yes the freddie mercury block. I've been hit with a hook many times and not once did I think of throwing my arm directly up like some sort of nazi salute. Where do these guys get off teaching this stuff?
    The problem with jujitsu is that, due to there being so many schools/styles/variations that there is no single/major governing body or authority on jujitsu. Nor a trademark or ip on the use of the term. This makes it entirely too easy for anyone to call whatever it is that they do jujitsu.


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    * sorry, the beers are clouding my transliteration. The move I was describing finishes with an o-ouchi-gari. The overhook to o-soto-gari is taught later.
    Last edited by cualltaigh; 11/11/2011 6:22am at .
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMcClaw View Post
    I think the sequence he's describing may just be blocking, overhooking, and then throwing with osotogari.
    We did stuff like this a fair amount in my old BJJ club; it was a decent enough way to introduce basic takedowns/etc to noobs.
    Except the correct block is answering the phone, not reaching straight up, and they're coming forwards to try and hit you so an immediate o-soto means you'd have to over-power them, which is not jiu jitsu. Also, you should be doing cover-and-crash to an underhook so you can look for their back, throwing off an overhook is an advanced manoeuvre that has no place in a basic fighting curriculum.

    (All in my not-particularly humble opinion, of course)
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