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  1. Naszir is offline
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    As JNP stated, as Machado students this is bread and butter. When I am feeling lazy I will give up the pass just to hit this instead of fighting from guard, especially if they are pushing the pace and bearing into me. As was previously stated, when I am on my side with the back grip on the belt, I can punch their head side wrist to their belly and sweep/reverse rather easily. If they are backing away though I have to muscle a bit more but this opens up other opportunities as well.
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    I'll make one Saturday about how I do it.
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    I would be truly appreciative if you do a tutorial. I'm actually working on a SEO project with a JJ Machado Blackbelt who trained Bravo for his fight with Royler. I'm going to ask him about it too.
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    i have a blue belt student who does this very well and i've changed the way i use side control because of it.
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    11/10/2011 10:51pm


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    Julio has hit this sweep on me a couple dozen times.

    One of the biggest keys to this sweep is momentum. With some sweeps you can get your grip and just go, but you can stall out pretty easily on this technique if your opponent isn't looking to pass and establish side control.

    One of the things I've seen Julio(and Jean Jacques for that matter) do is combo this attack with looking to regain guard. As your opponent starts to pass if you get this grip your opponent has two choices: he can either try to finish the pass(which often gives you the sweep/reversal) or stop moving forward which makes regaining guard a lot easier.

    A good example of this is (I think the first match from the 2010 pan ams) between Bernardo Faria and Rafael Lovato. Lovato gets the grip for this sweep and rather than continue to look for the pass Faria repeatedly retreats back into Lovato's half guard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnp View Post
    However, if you stay on your side, set your grips early and use their momentum as they pass against them, this move requires zero strength to finish.
    Quote Originally Posted by David Koresh Jr. View Post
    I do this one myself a lot and have hit it on browns/blacks when they try to pass.
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    momentum is key!
    Quote Originally Posted by Naszir View Post
    I will give up the pass just to hit this instead of fighting from guard, especially if they are pushing the pace and bearing into me.
    Quote Originally Posted by dokomoy View Post
    One of the biggest keys to this sweep is momentum. With some sweeps you can get your grip and just go, but you can stall out pretty easily on this technique if your opponent isn't looking to pass and establish side control.

    One of the things I've seen Julio(and Jean Jacques for that matter) do is combo this attack with looking to regain guard. As your opponent starts to pass if you get this grip your opponent has two choices: he can either try to finish the pass(which often gives you the sweep/reversal) or stop moving forward which makes regaining guard a lot easier.

    A good example of this is (I think the first match from the 2010 pan ams) between Bernardo Faria and Rafael Lovato. Lovato gets the grip for this sweep and rather than continue to look for the pass Faria repeatedly retreats back into Lovato's half guard.
    I think we all agree about this being a momentum based technique. More specifically, how to use your opponent's momentum against him/her.


    I like that you mentioned the re-guarding aspect of this move. Being on your side in the first place allows you to enter this move, and then enables you to subsequently capitalize on the moment when they recognize it and try to retreat back to your guard to avoid being reversed.

    Done properly, your grips should compromise their posture when they pull back allowing you to A: let go of the wrist and grab their far hip or knee and use the grip as pulling leverage to pop yourself back to closed or open guard, or B: maintain the over the shoulder grip and take the back when they fail to maintain posture while withdrawing.
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    In addition to pulling guard, if they try to avoid the sweep by not moving forward and committing their weight to you, then you can scoot out and rise up to your knees and get on top. Then if they try to squash you down, you just do the sweep again.
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    Well this isn't actually a sweep, but it is a pretty popular reversal. Never really made it's way into my game, but I train with a lot of people who use it. I've found the belt grip isn't as reliable and hard to counter as a chin grip around the head though. It's also sadly true that while you get no points for a reversal you can also be giving up an advantage to your opponent for almost passing by going for this. All depends on your speed/timing and how the ref sees it I guess.
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    Hit this 6 times on 4 different people today. I am really starting to like it but am a little bit afraid it feeds my bad habits.

    Observations/Questions:
    The across the back hand needs to be sort of diagonal for the most leverage.
    The hand in the hip should go elbow across the waist instead of posting straight.
    Getting the hips close to the opponents and driving over our head instead of just rolling over generates the most lift.
    The tighter the top guy is the easier the sweep is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M-Tri View Post
    Well this isn't actually a sweep, but it is a pretty popular reversal. Never really made it's way into my game, but I train with a lot of people who use it. I've found the belt grip isn't as reliable and hard to counter as a chin grip around the head though. It's also sadly true that while you get no points for a reversal you can also be giving up an advantage to your opponent for almost passing by going for this. All depends on your speed/timing and how the ref sees it I guess.
    That's what I was thinking, it looks more like a common escape from side control, but in the video examples applied as noted by JNP et al before the pin is set.

    In any case, very nice stuff!
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