10/28/2011 2:34pm, #111
From Lazaro's Facebook wall:
A few points of clarification about this image:
1) We have not stated a single lie. Not one. Saying that we are "spreading lies" is a common tactic used by people who have been called out. Because they can not back up their claims and know that their skills don't match their supposed ranks, they instead resort to muddying the waters in hopes that it will skew and slant the proven facts that have been presented. Saying something is a lie doesn't make it a lie (unless you are delusional).
2) In Israel Velez's replies, he sets himself up to be in unity with the "DLMA OR AMJ MEMBERS" (pardon the caps; they are not mine). This is yet another tactic to try to "spread the pressure" being placed on him. Instead of the reality of the situation (we are questioning Lazaro's and Israel's individual credentials), he tries to group himself in with an organization and say we are attacking that organization (false). Next, I'm sure he will point to members of that organization and say "this person is legit, therefore I am legit and the organization is legit". Skill by association is not reality, otherwise I could say I'm a bad-ass cage fighter and can teach CCW courses (I'm not, and I don't own a gun).
It would be good for everybody reading this thread about Lazaro, whether for information about him or for entertainment, also read through the Bullshidoka Arguments sticky thread and see how this is going EXACTLY how it always goes with people who know they are caught.
10/28/2011 2:41pm, #112
10/28/2011 2:49pm, #113
Let's keep this in perspective.
We're not here to change anyone's mind about anything connected to Lazaro. We're here to present factual information as it exists, then it's up to the reader to make their own mind up.
If we've outed him as a fake BJJ Black Belt then that's a job well done.
If we've outed him as an instructor of a system he wasn't authorised to teach, that's another job well done.
If we're able to demonstrate that he's of questionable character and is happy to lie his way out of the situation then that's another nail in his coffin.
My suggestion now, tie up any lose ends (if they exist) and crack on with the formal write up which will be placed in the wiki for all to see."To sin by silence when one should protest makes cowards out of men".
10/28/2011 3:40pm, #114
As I said in the other thread. This one was created to start a connection of questionable teachers to help inform the consumer. People try to deny it, but google has replaced the phone book and gym visits.
In some cases a gym visit is unnecessary. If a subject has more lies than truths, a consumer should find another gym.
10/30/2011 5:05pm, #115
Nicely said."To sin by silence when one should protest makes cowards out of men".
10/31/2011 6:04am, #116
This is the best, from his Facebook:
My name is Lazaro "Assassin" Bueno. I own Ultimate Protection & Investigations, Inc. A Bodyguarding Agency. i am the creator of the Executive Protection martial arts system and program called "Hokuto Shinken" The Assassination Art.
Just a down to earth man learning from my short stay on earth! Have to absorb all I can and enjoy every moment as if it was my last chance! I am what you would call a real "Cowboy". I love horses and riding them but have upgraded to a modern horse...my motorcycle. I love to ride and enjoy disappearing into the sunset...I have to be the hero and always look for a new challenge and adventure, something women tend to misunderstand about me. I am a crazy romantic but I need to drift off on my bike and fight solitary battles on my own. When I hear adventure calling in the horizon, i need to be let free and ride off to my next fight.I can be very mysterious that way. Mothers don't let your sons grow up to be cowboys like me...the world can never understand us! I love to fight....I love to train and challenge myself...taking myself to the limit and wondering just how far I can go...I can't stand theoretical martial artists...martial artists that say this and claim that but don't dedicate themselves daily training for hours to pull off what they claim in their "theories"...they are a dime a dozen and are as transparent as glass...JKD these days is filled with them...I am a Born Again Christian and have been since I was 14yrs old. It was the greatest decision I could ever make. God is the source of my life and I owe everything to him ! I cant live without church and praising Jesus ! Not much for relationships, hence I enjoy being single! After the my last few relationships I realized how glad I was to be single! What a nightmare! They don't let me train, always nagging and never seemed to be spiritual or more than superficial..lol...not to mention they couldn't even cook or clean! Ohh..did I mention they even get jealous of me dedicating time to my God? I know who I am and I don't plan on changing. I live a great life and I am very thankful for it! Been there, tried that...but this is for me: God , my son and fighting!
Last edited by Jim_Jude; 10/31/2011 6:05am at . Reason: typo"Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
***Was this quote "taken out of context"?***
"The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
~ The Secret of Judo (Jiichi Watanabe & Lindy Avakian), p.19
"Hope is not a method... nor is enthusiasm."
~ Brigadier General Gordon Toney
10/31/2011 10:37am, #117
There is no art called Hokuto Shinken it is actually stolen from the Anime/Manga Hokuto no Ken aka Fist of the Northstar.
Hokuto Shinken (北斗神拳?, commonly translated as the Divine Fist of the North Star) is a fictional two thousand year old martial art that is shrouded in mystery, from the eponymous manga and anime franchise, Fist of the North Star. Hokuto Shinken is based loosely on Dim Mak kung fu, but very few conventional martial arts compare to it.
10/31/2011 6:57pm, #118
And really...a Born Again Christian, so dedicated to Jesus...yet he loves to fight and feels that a the name of fictional martial art whose strikes causes peoples heads and limbs to explode best captures the essence of his art. I bet he misses the glory days of the Crusades and The Inquisition.
Last edited by FinalLegion; 10/31/2011 6:58pm at . Reason: Grammar Nazi
10/31/2011 8:02pm, #119
And I'm seriously loving the whole tying in of born again Christian thing with the hitman/assasin thing. Consistency dude. Way to Bruce Downey it up.
10/31/2011 8:06pm, #120