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    Didnt mean quiet in a literal sense. Meant the stadium looked fairly empty for a world cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Juggernoob View Post
    A noob question with no intention of offending anyone:

    Why dont they just do away with newaza. I mean really, what is the damn point. They get stood up so quickly.
    Just watching the first match, but so far it looks like the top player disengages then matte gets called.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lindz View Post
    Just watching the first match, but so far it looks like the top player disengages then matte gets called.
    Watching the full 2 and a half hours that Judoka has put up leads me to believe that the top player tends to disengage because the amount of time they're given to grapple is only good for the most speedy and oppurtunistic of subs. Its all about the Ippon :(

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    A lot of top Judoka are doing that these days, because despite spending 50% of their time in training camps and at their home clubs doing newaza. Many are not willing to take the risk or engage in newaza.

    There are those who engage in newaza, but unless they get a quick result they will just stall and get stood up again.

    This a consequence of easy ippons, because its easier to score ippon by dropping and the gradually step, by step, rolling your opponent slowly onto their back then it is to work newaza and gain a hold down or submission.

    Bizarrely and conversely the better you are at newaza the more time you get, observe Flavio Canto who gets a lot of time to work in newaza, because he is known to be good in newaza. However, of course to get that reputation you have to have time to work...

    Its retarded, but that's where elite Judo has got to.

    In rec Judo its often a lot better, especially at BJC events where you have quite a lot of time to work on the ground.

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    Another issue is energy management. Attempting to attack a solid defensive position burns a lot of energy. At that level, a microsecond lapse in concentration standing (caused by being a bit winded or not quite recovered from ne waza effort) and you lose the match.

    So they have to pick and chose their attacks on the ground. The lesser valuation of ippon,as pointed out already by Judoka_uK, also plays a big role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by judoka_uk View Post
    20 minutes in.

    Ferocious gripping going on and some interesting unorthodox stuff.

    Also appears Korean consists of mumbled phrases in between 'sumida', which you have to say every 7 or so words.
    You hear 'sumida' a lot because it's the ending phrase of a sentence in Korean honorifics. And THANK YOU SO MUCH for uploading this, luckily I am Korean, so I am enjoying all the wonderful judo matches with the commentary.

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