Holding Mount vs Going with the Flow.

**mikus** · Posted On: 3/26/2004 11:51pm

I'm finally starting to flow between side control, knee on belly and mount. I need to work on north/south. I think it depends on what type of game you're trying to develop. I'm small and I try to be quick so I like transitional submissions and whatnot. Some people are better at going slower and tighter and dominating.

**Shuma-Gorath** · Posted On: 3/27/2004 12:32am

I hold mount way better when I can hit the guy underneath; when I actually go for the pin I can't keep it as well as when I'm sitting up with a higher centre of gravity :confused:

**MadeOfOlives** · Posted On: 3/28/2004 8:51pm

Shumagorath- maybe try using the s-mount when you're sitting up? Or for the lower grapvining version of the mount when they start to buck.

**capaloco** · Posted On: 3/29/2004 12:12am

Which option saves more energy? Going with the flow I guess.

**Shuma-Gorath** · Posted On: 3/29/2004 12:46am

Originally posted by MadeOfOlives
Shumagorath- maybe try using the s-mount when you're sitting up? Or for the lower grapvining version of the mount when they start to buck.

Does the S-mount have a Judo name I can look up?

As for the grapevine thing, I'll definately try that at my next practice. I had a highschool wrestler throw that on me and it was way harder to work against than his 20-pound weight advantage. Then Vitali (SubTerran on this board) had him do the same thing and just twisted his neck to break his symmetry and make him let go :cool:

**J-kid** · Posted On: 3/29/2004 12:48am

LoL thats something real basic, that every grappler should know how to do.

*EX( I take you down head and arm(throw), as you fall you try to use my momentum to reverse me and take me over. As we hit the ground i jump over switching to a diffrent hold to prevent you from escaping) i hope this example helps.

**Greese** · Posted On: 3/29/2004 6:03pm

Most people tend to hold the mount poorly, from my limited experience. There are a lot of pieces to a good mount. A lot of people treat it as "sit on his chest and hope something happens."
I still try and find as many instructionals as I can find to to get better with my mount.

**stoogejitsu** · Posted On: 3/30/2004 3:47am

Actually omega I know at least two or three other people that enjoy that strategy/technique.

**NHB_Ben** · Posted On: 3/30/2004 3:59am

I usually try to stick the mount pretty hard. I would like to be more flexible, but I'm just not. I also know that I'd personally rather be mounted than be in the side control of someone who is good (easier for me to escape due to body type is my guess).

**MadeOfOlives** · Posted On: 3/30/2004 9:01pm

The s-mount involes riding higher up on the chest, with one leg sort of open towards the head instead of the body. Your legs end up in an s shape. This makes it easier to go for either jujigatame/the arm bar, or a triangle, if you can get the facing up leg past the persons arm. If someone else could please add onto my description, that would be awesome, as I was only taught this once and cannot remember the minutiae.