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  1. Miguksaram is offline
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  2. Michael

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    Not to rain down on your fun here BJJ but what's your experiance with TKD here besides outside observation. I mean I know several blackbelts in BJJ and I don't see them ever talk down about any art.

    Besides that, have fun bashing away.
  3. 9chambers

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    JKD Chick,

    >Actually, I'm a very smart, nicely curved bitch.

    *sigh* :)

    - - -

    BJob,

    >I couldnlt really care less if we "make up" or not.

    But the sex was so good ..

    >You say you have over 20 years of experience
    >in cross-training martial arts, yet you ended
    >up at TKD.


    Pay attention moron. I DON"T TAKE TKD! Your assumption leads me to believe that you've either been skimming over my posts or you don't read well. My only TKD experience was through childhood friends that I was on the wrestling team with.. (our coach was an Olympic alternate, not the history teacher earning extra cash like yours) ..and through a friend who teaches at my old college who has belts in a dozen martial arts (including BJJ) and helped train SEALS.

    If you want to know the truth I learned the spinning side from watching Kung Fu movies. The bulk of my study was in grappling arts and hardcore striking arts. I was doing that when you were in diapers.

    >Silva, McDonald, and any other talented
    >Thai Boxer do not "hop"

    Silva is FAMOUS for his flying knee attacks.


    [ATTENTION ADMINISTRATOR] :: How do I upload a highlight clip of McDonald to the downloads section?


    >when they throw a round kick.

    You have a poor attention span. I am not talking about a hop like a rabbit you retard. I am talking about a slight step moving your foot from facing forward to slightly positioned at an angle. Most times MT kickers barely even pivot. YOU CAN"T GET MORE THAN A HALF PIVOT WHILE IN THE FRONT GUARD WITHOUT TWISTING AROUND LIKE A MORON OR TAKING A BIG STEP AND TELEGRAPHING IT. Particularly on a rear leg kick.

    >As far as the sprawl goes, its obvious you have
    >no grappling experience.

    Again, you failed to read my last post. I started wrestling in 1988. I had already been studying Jiu Jitsu but I decided on my own (pre UFC) that I wanted to know what wrestlers know. I competed and did very well. In clubs at college, outside competition and beyond I have always been involved in wrestling. That is 14 years in wrestling alone. When BJJ broke out on the seen I started researching it. I have yet to find anything they do which I wasn't already doing in Jr. High. Its kids stuff.

    >When I shoot, I hope my opponent leaves his
    >weight in his legs, then it's a definite
    >takedown, because he'll never get them moved
    >back in time.

    You must wrestle really slow ass guys. I fully recommend you buy the book: "Winning Wrestling Moves" By: Mark Mysnyk, Barry Davis, Brooks Simpson. Forward by dan Gable. You really need to read what the best coaches in the world have to say about how wrong you are. Do you even know who those guys are or is the only real wrestler you know Kurt Angle?

    >All you TKD guys get so fired up because you
    >know have something to prove. You constantly
    >defend your art because you hate the idea
    >that you've wasted so much time and money
    >on something so worthless.

    I argued more points against TKD in this thread than you did you moron. I DON'T TAKE TKD! You suck at reading and that is how I know you suck at grappling.

    >I own all of you. On Prancer.......

    Attention little gay BJJ kid who masturbates to his Mom. I would have you screaming for mercy before you could blink. You are a *****. :)


    *** Anyway, I just saw Chuck Lidell do a jumping spinning side kick on the musical intro highlight reel on UFC 40. You can go tell him he was being a ****** if you want. See what he thinks about it.



    Edited by - 9chambers on November 26 2002 23:41:40
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    >You have a poor attention span. I am not talking about a hop like a rabbit you retard. I am talking about a slight step moving your foot from facing forward to slightly positioned at an angle. Most times MT kickers barely even pivot. YOU CAN"T GET MORE THAN A HALF PIVOT WHILE IN THE FRONT GUARD WITHOUT TWISTING AROUND LIKE A MORON OR TAKING A BIG STEP AND TELEGRAPHING IT. Particularly on a rear leg kick.

    <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> OMG you have nooooooo idea how to Thai Box. First of all, you just said they take a step forward at an angle to perform the round kick......this is absolutely right, and in no way resembles any kind of hop, nor does your weight leave your base. Secondly, the power in a Thai kick comes from the hips, something we both agree on, so a full pivot is necessary, or else you'll be kicking with just your leg.

    I have 75 years experience in martial arts, and have won tournaments in both grappling and striking, beating some of the biggest names out there.........HAHAHAHA

    Do you really expect anyone to believe that some 30-40 year old man is sitting here arguing on McDojo.com? If its true then you really need to get a life. Talking smack on here is something to do in between classes for me, an immature college student.

    Your pathetic TKD fag..........
  5. Michael

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    Well, we are glad you have a forum where you can unload. I was just curious.
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    martial arts black belt is killed and robbed by mental patient

    The criminal case that day was fraught with peril. The man standing before D.C. Superior Court Judge Frederick D. Dorsey was accused in a string of assaults but deemed mentally unfit to ever stand trial. For nine months he had been confined at St. Elizabeths Hospital, and now the criminal charges were being dismissed.

    Dorsey struggled. Should he keep Eric R. Wallace in custody, or was he forced to release him? "I don't like the position I'm coming to," the judge said at one point, bluntly addressing the predicament. In the end, he said the law left him no choice but to release the suspect. But he honored a request from the prosecution and agreed to keep the defendant in the psychiatric hospital for an additional 72 hours so that they could appeal. The appeal did not come. Wallace was released Oct. 10. And within a matter of hours, according to police, he fatally stabbed a congressional intern near Capitol Hill.

    Now Wallace, 36, is back in custody, facing a second-degree murder charge in the killing of Claude Rashad McCants, 25, attacked outside his home in Northeast Washington. In the charging papers, prosecutors said Wallace stabbed McCants in the neck and drove off in the intern's Ford Explorer. He was arrested a few weeks later. In charging papers, prosecutors said he acknowledged stabbing McCants and stealing the vehicle.

    Wallace had been awaiting trial on six misdemeanor assault counts stemming from two incidents. The first took place Oct. 15, 2001, when he allegedly hit and kicked his girlfriend of nine years in the face and body in their Northwest Washington apartment. The second happened two weeks later, when he allegedly accosted five staff members of the halfway house where he was being detained. The events were not Wallace's first brush with the D.C. courts. He was convicted of assault in 1996 and given probation. Dorsey ordered a series of psychiatric examinations, which began in January. Doctors with the D.C. Department of Mental Health found that Wallace was mentally ill, a finding that led Dorsey to order Wallace to be held at St. Elizabeths starting Feb. 7.

    In May, the city's doctors wrote the court that Wallace suffered from dementia and a seizure disorder and was unlikely to be mentally fit "in the foreseeable future." Dorsey continued the criminal case, while the corporation counsel's office began civil commitment proceedings. During a hearing Oct. 7, Dorsey cited the amount of time Wallace had spent confined -- more than nine months -- and the medical assessment that he was not going to get better. He told lawyers that even if Wallace had been convicted of the misdemeanors with which he was charged, he probably would not have served longer than nine months. The judge said that the charges had to be dismissed, and that holding Wallace longer would jeopardize his constitutional rights.

    A source close to the situation said that Wallace was given a two-week supply of medications when he was discharged. The killing took place at 9:15 p.m. Oct. 10 within a few miles of the hospital, in the 1100 block of Fourth Street NE. Wallace was arrested Nov. 8, after McCants's Ford Explorer turned up in Prince George's County. According to charging papers, Wallace's mail and paperwork were found in the vehicle.


    McCants, a native of Jackson, Miss., held a black belt in taekwondo, was a published poet and rock climber, and had just completed a year as an intern for Rep. Wayne T. Gilcrest (R-Md.). He graduated with a pre-med degree from Hampton University and hoped one day to change health care in the rural South.


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  7. 9chambers

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    >OMG you have nooooooo idea how to Thai Box.

    Yes I do. I am right. I'll post a video of various fighters doing Muay Thai kicks in the downloads section for you.

    In your defense a lot of guys use pivots who do MT because its standard in Kung Fu, Karate and TKD but the way people who know better do it is a little different. Your leg hits the guy as your base leg takes its new position. The kick pulls the base leg into position and not vice versa.

    If you take a step to pivot then the guy will see your kick coming a mile away. TKD guys solve this problem by prancing around, faking and skipping back and forth. Muay Thai guys solve it by either taking a step forward (faking a cross or something) and kicking or by doing what I am trying to teach you. Both ways are fine but I like my way better because its a lot faster. I know speed isn't everything. Keep doing it your way if that's what you feel comfortable doing.

    >First of all, you just said they take a step
    >forward at an angle to perform the round
    >kick......this is absolutely right,
    >and in no way resembles any kind of hop,

    You are never going to get it unless I show you. I'll put a video together for you and upload it to the downloads section.

    >nor does your weight leave your base.

    It hangs over your base. It isn't planted.

    >Secondly, the power in a Thai kick comes from the >hips, something we both agree on, so a full pivot >is necessary,

    We are talking about rear leg kicks. Most round kicks in MT are rear leg. Switching your guard as you kick is where you get the power. Your legs change positions and your hips rotate with a lot of force. It has nothing to do with a pivot pulling you or giving you stability. Its impact. Like a bat swinging out and hitting a ball.

    >or else you'll be kicking with just your leg.

    Exactly. Its NOT chambered. Your leg flys directly from its position on the ground to the target. You don't lift the leg up, cock it back and snap it forward. That is TKD and not MT. In MT you whip it up there right from its position. Your weight shifts from your kicking leg towards your target as you kick. It isn't on your other leg.

    >I have 75 years experience in martial arts,
    >and have won tournaments in both grappling
    >and striking, beating some of the biggest
    >names out there.........HAHAHAHA

    Dan Severn? .. No wait, he isn't quite 90 years old. You are mocking me, I know. Look, get a book on MT or even look up a web page about it. You'll see I am right. Who I am isn't even an issue. I am right. That's all that matters.

    >Do you really expect anyone to believe that
    >some 30-40 year old man is sitting here arguing
    >on McDojo.com?

    I am 31.

    >If its true then you really need to get a life.

    I just graduated from college again. I had to quit my old job to finish school. I am not yet employed in my field. I have time right now. This forum is the only one I visit. Its more entertaining than what's on TV.

    >Talking smack on here is something to do
    >in between classes for me, an immature
    >college student.

    Lets just forget about it okay. Move on to other threads. There are plenty of TKD guys for you to make fun of on here. I will post a video of McDonald and friends and you can review it. If you still don't agree that what I am talking about is common in MT then whatever. I'm done repeating myself.

    >Your pathetic TKD fag..........

    Okay, then you are a pathetic SCARS fag. lol

    This all started because of spin kicks anyway. Those were Kung Fu kicks before there was a TKD.
    At least call me a Kung Fu fag instead.

    No offense to TKD people. Hwang Jang Lee, Tan Tao Liang and Cassanova Wong were all TKD guys. They were all very talented in their day.




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    Coming from a man who dosen't understand the concept of CAPITAL LETTERS, apostrophes, or proper punctuation -- well, I find this tremendously amusing. You did spell illiterate correctly though; congrats.

    Unfortunately JDChick I (as Im sure alot of people in here) dont have time to go back through the posts and check grammar. Spelling is not the issue, the issue is however when not taking the time to READ poeples posts properly and consider them before answering aggressively whilst bleeting on about the same old issues without taking the time to consider the others motives or points of view. That is why noone ever even attempts to actually settle any differences on these forums, because everyone is unwilling to accept anyone elses position- even if its me saying that I am not doing MA to be the baddest ************ on the block. Is that so threatening to your code of conduct? As ive stated in other posts I would rather learn something less practical and more personally interesting if I have the choice (which I do). I would always pick what I choose more exciting, be that cross-country biking rather than trials or snowboarding instead of skiing. rally driving rather than precision parking- whatever. Its a personal preference.
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    LOL @ Kungfools.

    He just slaps one of his articles in the middle of a random arguement, I found that quite funny.

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    Proper Thai Round Kick (if link doesn't work, go to http://www.fighttraining.com and go to video technique section)

    I'd love to teach you myself, but since you'd most likely be KO'd to quick to learn anything, try this.

    Weight on the kicking leg...........too funny you are.



    Edited by - I Give BJJs on November 27 2002 17:48:42
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