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  1. Kung-fu Jesus is offline

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    Albany Shaolin - Delmar, NY

    A subdivision of Dewey's Martial Arts Academy in Delmar, NY, Albany Shaolin boasts nothing yet proves that a large school is not necessary to develop one's martial abilities to their full extent. I joined just over a month ago, after hearing about a good Kung Fu school near my house, and meeting a few students at the North East Open Martial Arts Tournament. I got an invitation to attend a class, and found that Albany Shaolin was almost exactly what I was looking for. Full contact, realistic training on both a fighting and philosophical stage, and a very experienced instructor.

    Class costs $40/month and meets every Friday from 6-7:30 in the largest of 3 rooms. Students also meet up on occasion to train what we learned, or to lift/run/exercise. But when class ends, Sifu W. asks if anybody wants to stick around and train in the back room. That's where the fun begins. We learn clever techniques, spar, get the techniques right, and repeat for about 60-70 minutes. I have some highlights to post, but the video is pretty large enough so it must be compressed first.

    As for the review grading system:

    Aliveness 6.5
    Quality sparring and fighting is pretty much the main focus of the school. Full punches, kicks, and throws are allowed, along with groundfighting (if the fighters want to). We have to have headgear, gloves, and cups on. The ground rules are that we can hit hard, but remain in complete control at ALL TIMES, so that if somebody drops or stops for some reason, nobody gets cold-cocked in the temple. For newer guys like myself, Sifu W. tells us to "stay light" to prevent any accidents. This doesn't men that we play tag though.

    Equipment 5
    We bring our own protection, of course, but there are plenty of bags at the school. Some are older and slightly ripped, but they get the job done well. There are a few standing heavybags, but I have yet to use them.

    Gym Size 4.5
    There are three training rooms in the school. The first, and largest is roughly 20'x40'. The second is about 20'x20'. The third room has been under reconstruction and off limits, but appears to be 15'x25' or so. All rooms have foam matting.

    instructor 8.5
    Sifu W. teaches all classes, and has his senior students help if he is late, or busy with another student. He has over 20 years experience (many of them in China, at a temple), and is an expert in many different Shaolin-related styles. Sifu W. also has a history of ring fights, but I believe that they were amateur fights, possibly between schools, or events in China.

    Atmosphere 9
    Everyone wants to learn. Everyone is supportive of each other. Almost everyone loves to fight, and between the ones who do, it is a slap happy bro-fest of pain.

    Striking Instruction 7
    Very in-depth. Sifu W. shows us many different strikes, and combinations with them. Whether its a new punch, kick, block/strike combination, or sweep/throw, Sifu W. helps us learn the proper technique.

    Grappling Instruction 4
    I haven't seen any groundfighting instruction as of yet, but I learned a basic clinch defense last class. We are allowed to grapple and groundfight during the second hour, but Sifu would rather us apply what we learned in class.

    Weapons 2
    I gave this a 2 because I have yet to see any weapons. I do know that we use them in forms, and learn basic techniques. I just haven't seen anything yet.

    For some forms/tournament sparring videos visit: https://www.facebook.com/groups/21772100344/

    If you live in the area and want to learn some good Kung Fu, stop by for a free lesson.

    Directions From:
    - Route 443 from Bethlehem turn left at the light in front of the plaza
    - Delaware Ave/Route 443 from Albany drive straight into Delmar and turn right at the light in front of the plaza
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    Does the highlight video have some full-contact sparring? The Facebook group only had video of point sparring.
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    Yes. The HL video was from our "fight night" last week. It's a lil bit corny the way I edited it, but that's not rly relevant to anything other than the good nature of the group. I'll post it when I get home.
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    The video of the guy doing double dan do form (Eugene Fitzpatrick) is just awesome. Simply amazing techniques.

    If this is the quality of their weapons training, its higher than 2.

    The best technique he shows, though, is when he avoids killing the little moron girl who nearly runs in front of him. It's hard to see from the video, but that's the reason he restarts....some little pigtailed lass nearly becomes lunchmeat.

    Or as he puts it on Facebook:

    To the Little Girl in Purple Who Tried to Commit Suicide By Running at Me as I Was Trying to Wield Twin Swords:

    Don't do that. Next time, you will die.

    Sincerely, Me.
    Truer words were never spoken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by W. Rabbit View Post
    The video of the guy doing double dan do form (Eugene Fitzpatrick) is just awesome. Simply amazing techniques.

    If this is the quality of their weapons training, its higher than 2.
    This is the quality of weapons training, but Fitz also could probably open his own school if he wanted to. His Eight Immortals Drunken Form won first in the highest division of that tournament. He also pretty much tools on everyone in the HL video, as many of the fighters were new(er) guys like me. The video is now on the FB page. I'll add more when we do more fighting.

    https://www.facebook.com/video/video...=1839153957685
    Last edited by Kung-fu Jesus; 9/27/2011 3:45pm at . Reason: ??how do embed video?? *angry face*
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    Quote Originally Posted by W. Rabbit View Post
    The video of the guy doing double dan do form (Eugene Fitzpatrick) is just awesome. Simply amazing techniques.

    If this is the quality of their weapons training, its higher than 2.
    Have you looked at the rating criteria for weapons?

    1: No contact, performance demonstration/forms only.
    2-3: Compliant partner drills and preset encounters
    4-5: Light continuous alive sparring (negligible pain/risk).
    6-7: Medium contact with excessive safety gear. (some pain and/or wide variety of realistic weapons)
    8: Hard contact with reasonable safety gear (pain and/or some blood)
    9: 8 but with various weapons. Tournament winners, proven success in limited restriction, top level competitions or high level self defense situations.
    10: Superior excellence. Regular (quarterly or less) skill testing via full contact, full range fighting, minimum safety equipment. (Pain, Blood, bone breaking and/or death)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Permalost View Post
    Have you looked at the rating criteria for weapons?
    I don't know...Eugene looks pretty lethal with those things I doubt he is getting substandard instruction...sure there are useless weapons practice routines and then there are people who can wield double steel sabers like that...lol he is a whirling ball of death ...partner optional, imho.

    Just my opinion of course I don't know anything about the school.
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    Posted On:
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    This is not based on fanciful imagination of what he can do. It is about aliveness in how the weapons are trained.
    If this is the quality of their weapons training, its higher than 2.
    No, he graded it correctly because he understood the rules.

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    That's why I put a 2. I've only seen the forms, but I'm sure that there is some mild contact/basic training at some point.
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    Double post.
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