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  1. JitsMag is offline

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    Posted On:
    10/05/2011 12:27am

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     Style: Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Interesting match, but Wanderlei has too much going against him right now.
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    Posted On:
    10/05/2011 1:06am


     Style: kickboxing

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I find this fight really intriguing.

    I think Cung has a pretty suspect chin, as he got slightly wobbled by a nearly over the hill Frank Shamrock. Wand's chin isn't what it used to be either.

    Le has had a fairly long layoff, and that could affect his ability to evade Wandy's rushdown. I think if Wandy gets in, he'll get the KO pretty easily.

    If Le is actually in shape and ready... Wandy will probably get toyed with for 3 rounds.
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    Posted On:
    10/05/2011 1:40am

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     Style: Ex-Tiger KF, ex-SanDa

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Cung is/was a middleweight, Wandy was a LHW IIRC, in what class are they fighting?

    I have to say, even though Wandy is a bigger frame, and very very experienced. Le's only loss in pro mma, was after laying a pretty harsh smackdown on Smith, before getting caught. In kickboxing he can hardly be touched (

    Le has good wrestling, amazing kickboxing, and is one of the best San Shou players in the world. If I had to put money on this one, it'd be on Le.

    Cung's credentials:
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    Mixed martial arts

    Strikeforce
    Strikeforce Middleweight Championship (One time)

    Kickboxing
    International Kickboxing Federation
    IKF Sanshou World Light Heavyweight Championship

    International Sport Karate Association
    ISKA Sanshou North American Light Heavyweight Sanshou Championship
    ISKA Sanshou U.S. Light Heavyweight Championship
    ISKA Sanshou U.S. Light Cruiserweight Championship

    World Wide Draka Federation
    1998 Draka Tournament Winner

    Shidokan Cup Bare-Knuckle Full Contact Karate
    1998 Shidokan Cup U.S. Tournament Winner

    World Wushu Championships
    1999 WWC Sanshou Bronze Medalist
    1997 WWC Sanshou Bronze Medalist
    1995 WWC Sanshou Bronze Medalist

    Black Belt Magazine
    2007 Kung Fu Artist of the Year [2]

    Amateur wrestling

    California Community College Athletic Association
    CCCAA State Championship (1990)
    CCCAA All-State (1990)
    West Valley College Wrestling Team Captain (1990, 1991)

    Amateur Athletic Union
    AAU Espior Freestyle National Championship (1989)
    AAU Espior Greco-Roman National Championship (1989)

    Submission grappling

    Amateur Athletic Union
    AAU Espior Sambo National Championship (1989)


    Le is literally one of the best kick catchers in all of pro fighting. His catch-sweep-kick of Frank Shamrock was magical. If it doesn't go to the ground, I think it'll be rough on Wand.

    Whoever wins, this will be a great matchup.

    I think size will be Wandy's best asset in this.
  4. Mannetosen is offline

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    Posted On:
    10/05/2011 5:30am


     Style: MMA

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Wanderlei has been fighting at middleweight for a while, so I doubt he'll be much bigger.

    Wanderlei is shot, unfortunately, and even if Le is ancient I see him taking this.
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    Posted On:
    10/05/2011 11:51am


     Style: Issh"i"nryu fixed....

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    Not sure what is meant by Wand's chin isn't what it used to be, he's been getting KOd since his early UFC days. Of course even though he's shot now, looking who has KO'd him and the fact that Lidell couldn't make it hard to hold against him.

    Same for Le. Scott Smith was getting all kinds of tooled when he landed that desperation punch on Le while he was smirking. Scott may not be a top 5 guy, but he does have heavy hands, and he got the stop by actively throwing hands after Cung covered up not by KO.

    As for Frank, he may be douche, but he's always had KO power. You can't take that away just cause he's not as young as he was. So Le getting almost wobbled doesn't mean anything.

    All the talk about Wand taking the fight to the ground... Cung is an amazing wrestler. I can more likely see Wand getting suplexed if he tries than taking Le down. I also really don't see either guy even considering going to the ground. I won't ever count Wand out, the last time I did I did he shut me up by almost killing Jardine. That said, I think he'll be getting the light shined in his eyes while someone holds ammonuim carbonate under his nose.
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    Posted On:
    10/05/2011 12:17pm

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     Style: Ex-Tiger KF, ex-SanDa

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Cung is a monster throw lander in San Shou. His wrestling is superbly tuned for fighting.
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    Posted On:
    10/05/2011 1:05pm


     Style: MMA

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Wanderlei showed an excellent chin back in PRIDE, but the combination of retarded Chute Boxe sparring and his style cracked it eventually.
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    Posted On:
    10/20/2011 9:01pm


     Style: BJJ

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    "Nobody's seen him on the ground...not yet"
    Maybe an indication that he's going to try to make use of his BJJ blackbelt?

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