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  1. judoka_uk is offline
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Put the price on the website, people won't need to call...

    Seriously though if I was weighing up two BJJ clubs/Muay Thai/MMA and they were both run by black belts/decent fighters with decent competition records/ achievements.

    As an educated consumer the difference may well come down to price and if one guy is charging a ridiculous 100 a month and the other is charging something reasonable. I'm not going to go to the joker charging a silly amount.

    Alternatively the person may have already weighed up all the factors such as instructor qualifications, gym rep, distance from home/work, facilities etc... and the only bit of info they don't know is how much it costs. Of course they're going to ring up and ask the price, because they already know you offer x amount of sessions at time y, in a however large a club and have won whatever comps.

    What they don't know is how much its going to cost them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ke?poFist View Post
    PS: This is part of why Judo schools always struggle. They undersell themselves :P
    We don't run on a for profit basis and long may it remain so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kintanon View Post
    I expect any school I'm looking at to have the following information on their website:
    Class Schedule, Drop in Fees, Class packages/programs, cost of said packages/programs, short video including clips from a typical class, competition footage, instructors credentials, and a New Student orientation section that describes what a prospective student should wear to a first class and what that class will be like.
    I see no reason why that should be a problem to have available. Then when someone calls you just direct them to the information on the website.
    You must be an engineer (This includes accountants, IT and most tech guys.)
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    Posted On:
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    Yup, IT Consultant.
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    Posted On:
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I have my prices on my site and they STILL email/call to ask.

    My standard reply is, "The real question is 'what the class is worth?' and only you can answer that." Then I remind them the 1st week is free...which is ALSO on the site.
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Our classes are dirt cheap imho.

    Annual membership = $50
    Monthly training fees = $35 for males, $25 for females (we're trying to get more females in the club), $25 for kids

    The cheap fees and poor attendance means that fees don't cover the rent, far less the bills and our grandmaster has been subsidising the club from the time I started training 5 yrs ago. He just continues to pay the balance on the rent and the bills because he loves teaching.

    @Ke?poFist judo classes are really cheap in Barbados as well, probably around $15 a month at some schools, but they get subsidised by the Barbados Judo Association, so they can afford the low fees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kintanon View Post
    Yup, IT Consultant.
    ...and by proxy suffer from Aspergers Syndrome.
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Supreme View Post
    ...and by proxy suffer from Aspergers Syndrome.
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Supreme View Post
    My favorite is when they have a smart phone, drive a $65K car and then tell me that it's too expensive.
    Well duh. That's because all of their money is going into paying off said $65K car.
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     Style: Judo noob, injured guy.

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    In defence of the price curious:

    For me price is very very important. I lost my job several months ago, my wife makes enough to cover our bills but not much extra since we both have student debt. While I am happy to pay what a school is worth ($100 for good BJJ or MMA is fine with me, in principle) I simply cannot afford that. And I would like to train

    So, right now the wife and I are scraping the cash together the necessary cash to get started with the closes judo club (Association dues and a gi mostly, the classes are only $30 a month) and I am investigating boxing gyms.

    TLDR: Douches with the money to pay for classes who just don't understand what quality instruction is valued at suck. But some people are just broke.
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    Posted On:
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    Especially if you have varying rates. If you can't afford training then why bother asking?
    You are probably usually dealing with an ignorant consumer who doesn't understand Actual Value vs. Perceived Value for a "non-essential" service. They likely don't understand the mechanic's rates or the plumber's rates, either.


    Seriously how does one answer this question?
    "Our gym has a wide variety of different offerings and different plans that I have designed to work into any need and any budget. Why don't you come in from a couple of free classes and try us out and we can talk about it, in person."
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