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    Quote Originally Posted by adey30491 View Post
    ninjitsu is the brother to kalari payyattu..
    Did you hear this from Hatsumi? If not, it isn't true.

    Because he's the only one qualified to speak with authority on ninjutsu because he's the only surviving ninja master.

    True story, bro.

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    This makes a pretty good case foe parallel evolution of MAs...



    ...unless those damn Japanese anexed Cornwall

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    1:40 "Like picking up a sack of potatoes, off the truck.."

    Isn't that same throw called a "rice bag throw" in judo?

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    Tawara gaeshi, commonly translated as 'Rice bale reversal'



    The throw shown in the Cornish vid, is a primitive Ippon Seoi nage.

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    No sprag on in judo though is there?

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    Standard defence to Ura nage and Te guruma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adey30491 View Post
    capoera has been derived from the chhau dance of purulia..
    I would love to see/hear how this happened... how African slaves took a detour to Bengal, learned a dance, and then ended up in Brazil.

    India is the new Greece: everything came from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doofaloofa View Post
    This makes a pretty good case foe parallel evolution of MAs...



    ...unless those damn Japanese anexed Cornwall
    Very interesting vid. Is there evidence that this skill set evolved separately from other MAs such as Judo, and was passed down generation to generation to arrive in it's present form? Or is it possible that this art is recreated from old texts and historical sources in a speculative sense? Similar to Pankration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jspeedy View Post
    Very interesting vid. Is there evidence that this skill set evolved separately from other MAs such as Judo, and was passed down generation to generation to arrive in it's present form? Or is it possible that this art is recreated from old texts and historical sources in a speculative sense? Similar to Pankration.
    I'd have to guess it is, in fact, Greek.

    From "A Summary of Michael Drayton's Poly-Olbion". Poly Oblion is an English poem and is the first known written account of Cornish wrestling. Corineus, a great Trojan captain, wrestled
    a Welsh giant or something....

    now THAT's what I call a fucking origin story!

    SONG 1 Drayton indicates his joint topographical and historical purpose by dual invocations. He calls on the local genius of the island to guide his Muse in her travels.

    Then he asks for an infusion of the spirit of the ancient British bards, the first preservers of history on the island. The topographical survey begins with the miscellaneous island possessions of England in the seas to the south and then proceeds to Cornwall and Devonshire at the southwestern corner of England.

    The first personified natural objects to speak are St. Michael's Mount (lamenting changes in nature and in human affairs) and the impudent Hayle River (boasting her beauties).

    There follows the first long survey of rivers and countryside, which contains brief references to the death of King Arthur on the shores of the Camel and to the peculiar skills of Cornish wrestlers.


    The career of Brutus, legendary founder of Britain, is narrated by the Dart River, for Brutus supposedly landed at Totnes in the mouth of the Dart. Since this episode supposedly inaugurates the civilized history of England, the narrative reaches back to the first of the series of events that brought Brutus to Albion: the burning of Troy and Aeneas' escape.

    Brutus was the great-grandson of Aeneas, and through a series of misfortunes and glorious achievements he brings a band of Trojans to the giant-inhabited island. His captain, Corineus, overcomes in single and decisive combat the greatest giant and is named first Duke of Cornwall. A chorus of rivers (whose names are listed) praises Dart for the recital of these events.
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    Every martial art came from Korea. The Samurang, Ninjang, Shaolang and boxang started it all. All other are Japan pig-dog lies.

    And **** Muay Thai, we all know korea had Muang Tang.

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