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  1. W. Rabbit is offline
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    As much as I hate wing chun, I don't think the chi sau video posted is in the same class as 3 star. The first videos has elements of unpredictibility and reactiveness and following bridging through to actually striking. 3 star has hit, hit, hit *switch* hit hit hit in a much more scripted way.
    Right, I just think it's about representation. The unifying theme here with chunners always seems to be that they misrepresent themselves via video...style over substance that is the ruin of so much CMA. If I've learned anything from Bullshido it's that this is to be avoided. Just be honest about what you're showing people...because the marginally intelligent ones will know anyway.

    I would never show people da saam sing and claim "this is how HARD we fight!" because that's misrepresenting what it is...it's a simple drill. It is hard to do. It is definitely painful. But it's basically just a form exercise that leads to the later bridging methods, which are part of other exercises, and then on to progressively resistive drilling and ultimately sparring.

    So..even if the "good" chi sau video isn't necessarily scripted and is more dynamic, Chunners across the world will show you this video and say "this is how HARD we fight!" and the Bullshido collective laughs for good reason.
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    Drills aren't sparring. Relatively alive drills are still drills. Randomness, broken rhythm and feints change EVERYTHING.
  3. Southpaw is online now
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    W. Rabbit: Trust me when I say that chi sau is not for arm conditioning in the "make your arms tougher" kind of way. Maybe conditioning your sensitivity, or reflexes, or muscle memory...and maybe conditioning your shoulder muscles or conditioning your body to remember arm structures and positions...but not in the "iron palm" sense of the word conditioning. Really the wooden dummy isn't even meant for arm conditioning.

    This isn't a comment on the useful or uselessness of that drill.
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    Eh I don't hate WC .......its the people who wanna learn WC. Bunch of Bruce Lee wannabes.
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    Wing Chun's an art and I personally respect that. It's all about timing and precision but once you are in a match, it is almost impossible to time your opponents let alone defend. This may be applicable as an exercise, cardio or stress reliever after a hard days work. :)
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    Why are these n00bs adding **** all to the discussion and bringing this non topic back to the top of my feed?

    **** off with your dumb ****.
    GET A RED BELT OR DIE TRYIN'.
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    Sorry about that. Is it necessary to curse though? MMA fans noob or not should suppose to respect each other right? PEACE
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    Uh oh, a "respect each other" n00b. I can see your future, n00b, it is not bright. But you'd be used to being a bit dim, now, wouldn't you, n00b?
    GET A RED BELT OR DIE TRYIN'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baki View Post
    Sorry about that. Is it necessary to curse though? MMA fans noob or not should suppose to respect each other right? PEACE
    No, it is the internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    No, it is the internet.
    Thats ******* right. Hey, WTF did you do? This **** aint cool man, this aint ******* MAP and ****!!! I don't post here to not be able to cuss and ******* swear, otherwise, I couldn't **** well tell ******* ******** to STFU, and ****** fsldka;fjsldkj????? You can't say ******. Man, I'm a disappointed *******.

    Thank the gods we can cuss on this site. @ Baki, MAP doesn't let you swear...but news to some, adults often swear, even online occasionally. ******* right!!!!!
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