Is this bullshido kyokushin

**sochin101** · Posted On: 9/15/2011 4:16pm

Video one appears to be more of a drill/conditioning exercise than actual sparring.

**money** · Posted On: 9/15/2011 4:54pm

I'm not surprised they're not paying attention to you, you sound crazy. If some random stranger came into just about any gym or dojo, legit or not, and challenged them to a "mma fight" they'd probably throw you out on your head.

Try the less douchy approach of, "Could I come spar with some of your black belts to test my own training?" Then spar with them on a ruleset they are comfortable with. If it works out well, then ask if you can expand a bit to include things like takedowns or grappling attempts.

**Cobbs001** · Posted On: 9/16/2011 1:27am

I am with money on this one. But remember to be very polite no dojo smasher mentality.

**Prince Vlad** · Posted On: 9/16/2011 9:46am

So what exactly is the point in challenging a random karate dojo to a duel? These guys aren't cage fighters trying to make a living from fighting. They probably train a couple of times per week for social/fitness/fun reasons and have no interest in getting into avoidable fights with random strangers. If you want to challenge someone then get on the local MMA circuit and fight like minded people. It's not as if these guys have a smear campaign out against you on the internet...

**jadekayak** · Posted On: 9/16/2011 10:54am

Originally Posted by Permalost

But you're a mcdojo karateka. Why would you opt to expand the rules to the clinch and ground when you're almost certainly bad at both of those things, since you're both karate fighters?

since when is Wado ryu a mcdojo

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 9/16/2011 10:59am

Seriously, stick to your own thread. If you start shitting up other threads I will ban you. Permalost did not say Wado-Ryu was a Mcdojo. He said shams1988 was Mccdojo karateka right in the post you just quoted. That is AN INSULT TO SHAMS1988s' TRAINING not THE STYLE ITSELF.

Stop instigating and learn how to read English correctly.

**patfromlogan** · Posted On: 9/16/2011 11:05am

Originally Posted by kitkatninja

So are you asking if Kyokushin is bullshido? Or if that club that you've posted is?

Cause the clip from the Euro competitions says that the art ain't (imo).

The greens looked WAY better than the OP's vid. But like it was said, if it's #38 out of 50 sparring matches, or if it's a training session... So we don't have the info.

And everyone, including IIF, is making sense, except the OP.....

**Permalost** · Posted On: 9/16/2011 11:22am

Originally Posted by jadekayak

since when is Wado ryu a mcdojo

Wado Ryu isn't any kind of dojo. Its a style.

**Shams1988** · Posted On: 9/16/2011 12:47pm

Originally Posted by Prince Vlad

So what exactly is the point in challenging a random karate dojo to a duel? These guys aren't cage fighters trying to make a living from fighting. They probably train a couple of times per week for social/fitness/fun reasons and have no interest in getting into avoidable fights with random strangers. If you want to challenge someone then get on the local MMA circuit and fight like minded people. It's not as if these guys have a smear campaign out against you on the internet...

I am really sorry to not have given any background information on why I did what I did (challenge these people).

Let me start by saying this is south asia. Few people have the internet. No one knows what mma/groundfighting/muaythai full contact fighting is. Heck half of them dont even know what the internet is in bangladesh. We just got cable internet a year back lol.

People in this dojo have a huge ego. Their karatekas are known for throwing lines like " Don't mess with us, we can break bricks with our heads." and " Kyokushin is the BE$T martial art in the world".

I am just a young martial artist in Bangladesh trying to educate the MA community here that the world has advanced a lot. Words CANNOT do that. I want to do what Gracie family did for america and to do that I know I'm not educated enough in the ground game and such but I am willing to travel and learn.....but somehow I have to bring in some enlightenment for the future development of my country. People here (in my country) think,act,talk differently from an average educated American. Keep that into consideration before posting.

**Shams1988** · Posted On: 9/16/2011 1:04pm

Originally Posted by Permalost

But you're a mcdojo karateka. Why would you opt to expand the rules to the clinch and ground when you're almost certainly bad at both of those things, since you're both karate fighters?

Clinch and ground eh? As I said I just want to educate the community over here. BJJ is such a nice art that after 2 weeks of practicing with my Judo buddy I sneakily submitted my sensei while sparring. He was like " very effective!". Since that day we have been including more grappling to our curriculum. I am proud to say I have made an advancement to my dojo and I wish to do the same to every dojo in my country so that we stand a chance with you well educated non-bullshido Americans oneday in an art that had made the biggest possible leap in the past two decades.