Thread: Bujinkan rehabilitation
9/11/2011 9:13am, #81
Booj isn't the only "jujutsu" that derives from armored techniques. Many jujutsu ryuha transitioned from armored techniques to unarmed, unencumbered techniques. Some are just as stiff and awkward as Booj, others managed to smooth it all out, or relegate the armored portion of the curriculum to a ritual status. I'd need to consult my library, but I do believe there is a set of Judo kata that is derived from armored techniques.
I'm not sure what you mean by "improvisation" in this context. If you mean "henka" or a variation from the standard kata, that is still compliant training. If you mean that the uke abandons the kata at some point, well, now we're getting closer to resistant training.
This explains the concept of Aliveness better than I can:
Which merely brings me to the point that the Booj is very much like the elephant in the story about the elephant and the blind men. So you (and I) need to be careful about extrapolating too much about the entire Booj organization based on a sliver of experience.
9/11/2011 9:18am, #82
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9/11/2011 9:35am, #83
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derived is fine, I'm aware of this, but there has to be some deriving done.
with the main program I mean tenchijin, which contains some koto, but a whole lot of gyokko, if I'm not mistaken, I'm no expert.
anyway, did you alter training methods in some way to some result?
9/11/2011 9:43am, #84
9/11/2011 9:48am, #85
9/11/2011 9:55am, #86
You've asked an excellent question about alteration of training methods.
I am a senior student at my Booj class. I have some slight influence, but not any real control, over the teaching. I am occassionally allowed to teach a class. I have pushed, prodded, and cajoled to alter the training -- it's slow.
The main change came when the Booj head instructor picked up BJJ as a side-interest. He immediately realized the first problem was fitness and sought to fix that with us. Then he schooled us with his blue belt skills. Since then, all the instructors and the senior students have gone on to earn blue belts in BJJ. The school solution was to add BJJ to the curriculum. Now we have a core group at Blue Belt level in BJJ, and any students not taking pure BJJ classes are getting crappling instruction during regular classes.
There are serious growing pains here. I can see that the instructors are busy reinventing the wheel, and due to the investment of time and effort in the Booj -- and also the relationships they have built -- they are not willing to make all the necessary changes. They think BJJ can simply be added to BBT when that's not exactly the case. As Shinbushi pointed out, there's no need to reinvent the wheel.
My personal training has changed. I spend far more time per week in BJJ and my Contemporary Jeet Kune Do (JKD) classes and training than I do with Booj. If you want to know why I stay at all, it is primarily because I really enjoy the people in my Booj class. As I explore other arts, I have yet to find anything that wasn't touched on in Booj; so for me (and YMMV) Booj has provided an excellent background in theory. But it does not produce skill in the same way an Alive art can.
9/11/2011 10:09am, #87Curiosity killed the cat. But damn it had a blast.
9/11/2011 10:21am, #88
people who play ninja or aikidoka are like that one special kid we all used to know.
if you'd get ready to go with your group of friends and do some bmx-xrossing this kid comes along with a trycicle and a special flag on it and says: ' lolol hai guiz, mind if i tag along?'
and then you and your friends go like: dude, gtfo, you're getting nowhere on that trycicle, get a proper bmx bike frist.
and then the special kid says: ' zomg! im telling my mom!'
and then his mom comes and you go like: oh **** there we have it..
and then his mom says: you rotten asshole kids, you know dam well he's sensitive and special, now we're not going to buy him a bmx, his trycicle is just fine to cross with, now you will play with him or im going to your parents!!!'
you're kinda like the mom in this story.
9/11/2011 10:34am, #89
9/11/2011 10:37am, #90