There's a black belt in jujitsu where I work

**Eddie Hardon** · Posted On: 8/30/2011 1:10pm

"Demo" seems the keyword hence the slow intro for the audience.

As has been said, "Kempo Ju Jitsu" is a common term. It could be anyone. In London, it's the title of a group headed by Peter Browne, who also does Escrima to broaden their syllabus.

Some of the techniques are clearly Trad JJ as used in the UK. Other things they did, I dunno. Breakfalls, standard. Breakfalls over bodies, yeah have had to do that.

The Bo looked a mixture of Okinawan Fixed Kumite and a variation of Continuous Kumite.

Groundfighting. Check. Standard start.

It's broadbrush stuff as signalled by the word "Demo". I dare say the syllabus can be traced back to the BJJA GB or earlier BJJA (not to be confused with Brazilian JJ).

Hmm. Well some dojos have Senseis with a Judo (Dan Grade) pedigree but these are few. Two of whom I knew are now deceased. Certainly, one I know is over 60 years and an absolute fund of knowledge and skill and who still teaches Judo. All his students are adept at groundfighting.

Other Trad JJ-ers whom I know have themselves broadened out into BJJ/Judo/MMA. One has a Cage Record and Dan Buzotta has committed himself to the MMA/Cage/BJJ route. Meerkat has left Trad JJ for BJJ and is a Purple Belt. So, not everyone in Trad JJ is complacent nor unthinking.

Anyway, to the OP, if you're happy, good luck.

**captainbirdseye** · Posted On: 8/30/2011 4:10pm

Originally Posted by Eddie Hardon

One has a Cage Record

Who's that?

**judoka_uk** · Posted On: 8/30/2011 4:41pm

He's 0-1 against the cage.

**captainbirdseye** · Posted On: 8/30/2011 4:57pm

Originally Posted by judoka_uk

He's 0-1 against the cage.

Brilliant, but I can think of two that do have cage records, just curious if it's someone I know.

**Eddie Hardon** · Posted On: 8/31/2011 2:17pm

http://www.mmauniverse.com/fighters/will-morley-17872

This one. Will's surname is actually Murley but the ring announcer had it as "Morley" so he stuck with it. Will trains under Dan Buzzotta and was scheduled to fight for his BJJ Purple in July but got held up in Cornwall so likely missed his chance.

He is Trad JJ 3rd Dan but put that on the backburner while he pursues MMA and trains about 4 nights a week.

**captainbirdseye** · Posted On: 8/31/2011 3:41pm

Not one I know then, crosstraining does seem fairly prevalent in the UK jujitsu scene though.

Oh also, the WJJF must have been pretty big to have spin offs everywhere (good sign of the bullshido inherent in the system), when did it all implode?

**Eddie Hardon** · Posted On: 9/01/2011 4:38pm

The bit I missed out on Will fighting for his Purple was that it was that the examination was to be under Royce Gracie. Yes. A group of us were in Cornwall and I think he got back too late.

Another Trad JJ 2nd Dan got his Blue from Royce Gracie some years ago. He has now dropped Trad JJ - numbers were falling off and he was finding the knowledge for 3rd Dan difficult to obtain (he's out of the Coast) so he now continues his journey in BJJ.

It goes on. I know - or knew - 2 Trad JJers who also trained at London Shootfighters. A friend in Herts - Trad JJ Brown - also trains under Eddie Kone and has been awarded his Blue. He now also trains Judo and recently hosted Ray Stevens and Daniel Strauss. I was invited but in the end, the 2 hours travel put me off. My loss. I'd have been slaughtered but I don't mind, that's how I've learned.

WJJF? It's answered elsewhere.

**captainbirdseye** · Posted On: 9/01/2011 4:43pm

Do you crosstrain at all?

**singhakabuttar** · Posted On: 9/04/2011 5:05am

i dont see anything of any real street value in these vids, just a bunch of rehearsed moves, and rolling around on mats, id like to see those rolls on concrete! i think youll be better off sticking to bjj, add some judo, and boxing, if you wanna do weapons id reccomend kali/escrima.

**captainbirdseye** · Posted On: 9/04/2011 8:09am

Originally Posted by singhakabuttar

i dont see anything of any real street value in these vids, just a bunch of rehearsed moves, and rolling around on mats, id like to see those rolls on concrete! i think youll be better off sticking to bjj, add some judo, and boxing, if you wanna do weapons id reccomend kali/escrima.

If you can't roll on concrete you're a cretin. Also, of course it's rehearsed, it's a demo.