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    Investigating Nidan Claim

    One of the instructors at a karate school nearby where I live claims to be ranked nidan in Judo under a Sensei Isaku Suzuki. I can't find any records regarding either Isaku Suzuki or the instructor, Robert Ornes, simply by searching Google or the USJI/F/A sites. Is there an efficient way to confirm or discredit this rank?

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    This probably should be moved to MABS as you are doing an investigation.

    In short, ask the guy under which national organization he was awarded his rank.
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    Alright, thank you. I didn't want to jump the gun and call this a serious MABS investigation until I knew the next step to take, but I will ask soon enough.

    The website, for anyone interested, is www.askd.us - American Shodokan Kodokan Dojos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BKR View Post
    ...In short, ask the guy under which national organization he was awarded his rank.
    This would be the first step :)

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    Just glancing through that website raises red flags for me, but I can't find anything much about it either here or on e-budo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melkolmr View Post
    Alright, thank you. I didn't want to jump the gun and call this a serious MABS investigation until I knew the next step to take, but I will ask soon enough.

    The website, for anyone interested, is www.askd.us - American Shodokan Kodokan Dojos.
    You might inquire as to where/when he studied Judo with Mr. Suzuki, that would help narrow things down.

    I didn't see any mention of Judo instruction on the website, did I miss something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BKR View Post
    You might inquire as to where/when he studied Judo with Mr. Suzuki, that would help narrow things down.

    I didn't see any mention of Judo instruction on the website, did I miss something?
    http://www.askd.us/head_instructors_bio

    Skip down to Robert Ornes and then to his other ranks held. Its the first one listed.

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    Other ranks held by Sensei R. Ornes
    2nd-degree Black Belt in Judo earned by Sensei Isaku Suzuki

    Apparently the rank held by Ornes was earned by Suzuki.

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    Quote Originally Posted by judoka_uk View Post
    http://www.askd.us/head_instructors_bio

    Skip down to Robert Ornes and then to his other ranks held. Its the first one listed.
    I saw the claim of rank, but nothing on the website about teaching Judo, just karate.

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    The instruction there is, as far as I have been informed, just karate. Basically the Strip-mall Shotokan Special: pressure points, point-sparring and kata.

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