Thread: Arkansas College - Martial Arts?
8/13/2011 1:21am, #1
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Arkansas College - Martial Arts?
Run by Marty Cale in Fayetteville, AR.
His website says they teach Krav Maga and Marty's creation of Combative Ju Jitsu. His site also claims that he is in the United States Martial Arts Hall of Fame. The owner is apparently a world renowned Krav Maga instructor also.
Professor Marty Cale
10th Degree Black Belt - Founder White Tiger Kenpo JuJitsu
6th Degree Black Belt - Combative JuJitsu
President of the International Martial Arts Council & United States Martial Arts Hall of Fame
His "Combative JuJitsu" also has a belt system that he has created.
I would just like to know if this is a trustworthy place to train and if all of Marty Cale's credentials are all true.
8/13/2011 1:49am, #2
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This guy IS actually the president of IMAC.
Don't let the fancy title fool you. Most people here willtell you that IMAC is an organization that promotes bullshido. IMAC is essentially an organization that you pay to get promoted by. One guy gives ranks to the other guys, who gives another rank back to him, which results in guys with huge resumes and no idea what they're doing (see below.) I guess you could call it rank trading.
Basically, instead of him being the average bullshido practitioner, he's kind of a major ringleader of bullshido.
There is more info on IMAC here:
This is his actual list of credentials:
White Tiger Kenpo Karate 10th Degree Black Belt
American Combat Kickboxing 10th Degree Black Belt (Honorary)
Jujitsu 6th Degree Black Belt
Okinawa Te 4th Degree Black Belt
Kobudo 3rd Degree Black Belt
American Karate 2nd Degree Black Belt
Tae Kwon Do 1st Degree Black Belt
Jeet Kune Do Certified Instructor
Krav Maga Certified Instructor
Law Enforcement Tactics Certified Instructor
Cane Masters, Master Instructor
The first two ranks are almost certainly real, considering one is honorary, and one is in his own style, so he just gave it to himself. The others may or may not be legit due to the aforementioned rank trading/buying.
So I can't tell you if he's safe to train with since I've never taken any of his classes and I don't actually know what any of his ranks are, but you should be aware that he is definitely participating in some shadiness.
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8/13/2011 2:00am, #3
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Firefox bugged out before I could finish that last post.
He's also the president of the United States Martial Arts Hall of Fame, which literally makes him the top of the pyramid when it comes to bullshit in martial arts.
Would stay far away if you want to do anything other than pay exorbitant amounts for a "good workout."
8/20/2011 8:20pm, #4
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I think there is still a judo club at the jones center in springdale, much better than a made up martial art from a shister.
8/20/2011 8:47pm, #5
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8/23/2011 5:40pm, #6
8/24/2011 8:43pm, #7
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As for Marty Cale, bullshido of the highest order. Stay away. That guy changes his bio every couple of years. In the 80' s it was combat karate, 90's, Jeet kun do Kenpo kuk sool. Kickboxing. Nowadays his bio reads like he is a master grappler( he is not, I know people who have trained with him) and his big money maker now is Krav. This guy literally changes with the seasons , and he has made tons of money in this area off of the gullible. Contracts required and all that.
I ran into some of his students( they were wearing his krav shirts) asked them about his grappling" oh, master cale is a master grappler and we do bjj, but combative jj is so much better.). I think he has an instructor who has one of those gracie combatives blue belts.
Basically this is nothing more than a bad kenpo school, who changes their sign according to the newest craze in martial arts.
No ,I won't go to his school either to question him because I literally despise everything this guy stands for.
8/27/2011 1:45pm, #8
8/30/2011 10:47am, #9
nice. i was at Ark Judo for a couple months. i've actually thought about dragging my lazy ass back in to train.
i just kept having nagging injuries and couldn't keep up with the pace that Jeremy and Sensei Dobbs wanted to train.
also, i know of just about every legitimate school/instructor in the area and he is not one i would train with or send my kids to train with.
Last edited by kismasher; 8/30/2011 10:54am at .