"We're cagefighters"

**C0WB0Y** · Posted On: 8/10/2011 3:16pm

Stupid newb, you NEVER use BJJ when outnumbered... USE JUDO!!!

I'm quite the ITG badass and I've won fights 2-1, 3-1 and 4-1 using Judo. I fought to a draw 10-1 (had 5 of 'em KTFO'd) against some Jersey Guidos who jumped me on my birthday when I was SHITFACED drunk a couple years back.

More Judo, less BJJ... it really makes a difference ESPECIALLY on pavement.

**excludedmiddle** · Posted On: 8/10/2011 3:37pm

Originally Posted by C0WB0Y

I've won fights 2-1, 3-1 and 4-1 using Judo. I fought to a draw 10-1 (had 5 of 'em KTFO'd) against some Jersey Guidos who jumped me on my birthday when I was SHITFACED drunk a couple years back.

Details?

**recourse** · Posted On: 8/10/2011 3:38pm

Damnit! Why are you on every message board I am? (I replied to you in a thread on fark.com the other day.)

Originally Posted by C0WB0Y

Stupid newb, you NEVER use BJJ when outnumbered... USE JUDO!!!

I'm quite the ITG badass and I've won fights 2-1, 3-1 and 4-1 using Judo. I fought to a draw 10-1 (had 5 of 'em KTFO'd) against some Jersey Guidos who jumped me on my birthday when I was SHITFACED drunk a couple years back.

More Judo, less BJJ... it really makes a difference ESPECIALLY on pavement.

**ermghoti** · Posted On: 8/10/2011 3:44pm

Originally Posted by excludedmiddle

Details?

He smushed a bunch of drunk idiots head-first into the ground, whereupon they suddenly opted to catch up on much-needed sleep?

**CrackFox** · Posted On: 8/10/2011 3:51pm

Actually I saw one of the feral kids that live two blocks down from me use BJJ to win a 2-1 fight. He got some guy in a really sloppy triangle choke while one of his friends booted the guy being choked in the ribs.

**excludedmiddle** · Posted On: 8/10/2011 4:21pm

Originally Posted by CrackFox

Actually I saw one of the feral kids that live two blocks down from me use BJJ to win a 2-1 fight. He got some guy in a really sloppy triangle choke while one of his friends booted the guy being choked in the ribs.

Lol! Win.

**judoka_uk** · Posted On: 8/10/2011 4:32pm

You have to be careful with Judo, because it can be 'too effective' if there is such a thing.

I know a former GB international who was attacked and O soto gari-ed his attacked onto the pavement. The guy landed on his head was knocked unconscious and within seconds there was a pool of blood a couple of foot square and growing on the floor.

Now that sounds all macho and you can have a good Phailmore esque circle wank about it, but most normal well adjusted human beings will think is 'oh **** what have I done', as this ex-international did, when standing over an unconscious and rapidly exsanguinating body.

After that he made sure he always cupped the head in any altercation he got in to ensure he didn't have a repeat.

**Permalost** · Posted On: 8/10/2011 4:36pm

In Bas Rutten's DVD, the one full of kicks to the balls and smashing skulls into corners, he describes a hip throw ending in a kneeling position to be one of the most dangerous things you can do to a person.

**Cullion** · Posted On: 8/10/2011 4:38pm

Originally Posted by Sophist

We both have girlfriends, and were taking advantage of their absence to catch up in time-honoured alcohol-sodden fashion.

A little fishing ?

Camping?

Or did you just stay in and.. chat?

Glad you survived.

**judoka_uk** · Posted On: 8/10/2011 5:19pm

Originally Posted by Permalost

In Bas Rutten's DVD, the one full of kicks to the balls and smashing skulls into corners, he describes a hip throw ending in a kneeling position to be one of the most dangerous things you can do to a person.

Dunno about that, my mate Phil who's a copper has O goshi-ed (hip thrown) a few people in self-defence and in his job and found it to be fairly safe. In O goshi you can control someone's decent quite well and look after them. If Bas is showing a harai goshi through... well I wouldn't want to be chucked by a decent Judoka with a harai goshi on concrete!

And I can imagine it doing a lot of damage.

As an aside was just watching a UK tv programme http://www.channel4.com/programmes/l...of-horrors/4od and both Bas' self defence video and that Master Wong really sweary London chinese wing chun guy were featured in trails, lol.