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  1. Omega Supreme is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by judoka_uk View Post
    If you use a lot of energy in any throw you're doing it wrong.
    meh meh meh meh any throw meh meh...smart ass.
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Then the OP by his own admission doesn't know how to suplex.
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     Style: cult of crapple, ATTACK

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    To be fair I've been wrestling in one form or another for eight or nine years now, and I feel like I am not really well versed in the suplex. Its a hard technique to practice live due to the nature of its impact. Especially if you throw towards a bound arm like we were taught.
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I know a wrestler who bounce doors and he has KO'd several people on the street with suplexes. Asphalt and concrete is not as forgiving as a padded mat.

    And being a big guy I've only been suplexed properly once but I gotta say it scared the living daylights out of me.

    So pretty effective both in streetfights and sports IMO.
  5. blackmonk is online now
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Same thing as a couple of you said...

    For me, it's the psychological effect. In my experience, I can feel people wither after I've suplexed them. It's just demoralizing for whatever reason.

    I'm also a sucker for theatrical throws and submissions, and that certainly falls into that category.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackmonk View Post
    For me, it's the psychological effect. In my experience, I can feel people wither after I've suplexed them. It's just demoralizing for whatever reason.
    I think part of it is thinking "oh ****, I'm dealing with a real wrestler and now I'm on the ground with them".
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I'm definately not as good at suplex's as I was in HS. My mom has VHS tape of some of my old meets, it's hard to believe that was me lol...

    Anyway, it's easy to say if it's hard to do in any way you're doing it wrong. Against a live resisting opponent a suplex is hard to pull off, both in execution and in getting the position to even try in the first place. My one real experience using it in a fight had no resistance. I doubt I could've pulled it off if the guy was sober, but I also doubt I would've tried something else even if was more difficult. It just seems like it's a move where everything has to go right in order to it well, as opposed to other throws that can be forced and still done well. It also seems that if you do it perfectly, your opponent is just getting rolled and not taking any damage. Which can be a good thing, but what if the OMG factor doesn't work? You used all that effort just to piss off a guy that wants to hurt you even worse now...

    Or am I wrong? Is it really that easy a move to pull off? It was easy in Greco and freestyle, it was easy on a drunk dude, and that's my only experience with it, I'm just assuming it would be vastly more difficult in an unbiased situation.
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     Style: Issh"i"nryu fixed....

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I realize this may be a stupid question without specifying since a lot of suplex's are quite simple... Hell, a uranage is mechanicaly a suplex and I've never seen anyone botch one, even non-grapplers can pull that move off pretty easily.

    For the record, I'm refering to bridging or over-head sup's.
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    8/13/2011 3:28am


     Style: cult of crapple, ATTACK

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Mechanically, to get your hips under, and explosively lift a struggling grown ass man over your head and drop him on hits dome is difficult. To get back control on a trained grappler and not have him know to fight your grip and just try and sit down, ever harder.
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Missing posts moved here: http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=108300

    A reminder, if you are not named Omega and are discussing anything outside of suplexes in this thread, you are polluting this forum.

    Do not post trash in AdGrap.
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