Thread: What is the value of a suplex?
8/09/2011 3:44am, #11
Not saying you would do that, all the one's you've shown were plenty safe.
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8/09/2011 3:53am, #12
8/09/2011 3:58am, #13
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As a bouncer, it's a way to take down someone who's trying to resist removal, too big to push out, and not violent enough to throw or dog-pile. If you feel that hurting people sucks.
@CoffeeFan Like many throws and takedowns, you can dump someone soft or hard, on a soft piece to land on, or a hard one.
Suplex is a broad category, though. A gut-wrench and scramble can get you on top of a drunk without too much trouble. A technical, dump-some-fella-on-his-head suplex, however, is beyond the scope of my experience. And probably not often warranted outside of competition.
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8/09/2011 5:16am, #14Originally Posted by Jiujitsu77Originally Posted by HumanzeeOriginally Posted by jk55299 on Keysi Fighting Method
8/09/2011 5:19am, #15
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Okay, I for some reason feel the need to take a crack at this. A suplex has the same value as any other dynamic throw to physically slam an opponent into the ground, which is to inflict bodily harm. It is separated from your garden variety judo/wrestling throw in that when done correctly it will land your opponent on his head/neck/shoulder area. It has potential if done exactly correct to knock your opponent unconscious. Note that any other throw can break ribs, knock the wind out, bang the back of someones head against the mat/concrete, as well. Its definitely among the more difficult throws to master, and most decent grapplers won't give up the type of control you need to throw one properly. If there are people watching it might get you a round of beers and some vajayjay later for making you look badass, but its not the be all end all that people make it out to be. This being said, somebody suplexed me once and it was certainly demoralizing, much scarier than a Japanese wizzer or a hiptoss, so there could be a psychological component too it. That and its a cool word to say, sssuuuuppplleexxx.
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8/09/2011 5:22am, #16
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Being somewhat bad at fighting, I have yet to suplex anyone, but I can confirm the devastating psychological effect it has on the recipient.
I think the fact that it generally doesn't cause too much damage makes it even worse, sort of like he's toying with you.
Edit: Doh, kenny_free beat me to it.
8/09/2011 5:46am, #17
8/09/2011 9:59am, #18
The bottom line is a suplex is a throw in your arsenal that many have very little defense against. I've always found it easy to pull off and keep it in reserve for those who I think can handle it.
8/09/2011 10:24am, #19
1) if you need to save energy use Tani Otoshi like Hedge said.
2) The Fedor example is not an example of a good suplex it is an example of an AMAZING breakfall.
8/09/2011 11:24am, #20
If you use a lot of energy for a suplex you're doing it wrong.