Identify This Ineffective Art

**Permalost** · Posted On: 8/12/2011 11:43am

Originally Posted by CrackFox

Permalost, I can understand the krav guys being slow on the uptake, but come on dude I thought you'd be made of brighter stuff.

I got kicked in the head at a krav seminar once. It makes me kind of slow, and gives me flashba

YOU ARE DEAD, DOUG! DEAD!

**Super8astard** · Posted On: 8/12/2011 4:38pm

I always thought it was funny how people claim to "know" martial arts yet still think punching and boxing are the same thing.

**Tom .C** · Posted On: 8/12/2011 7:42pm

Originally Posted by Super8astard

I always thought it was funny how people claim to "know" martial arts yet still think punching and boxing are the same thing.

They also claim that lady was singing

**patfromlogan** · Posted On: 8/28/2011 10:03pm

I read enough of this thread to know that Aikironin21 should work out more and type less and I should drink a lot of gin if I'm going to waste my life reading **** like this...

**crappler** · Posted On: 8/28/2011 10:26pm

Originally Posted by Aikironin21

Here in California, the I believe the law is similar. There is such a thing as parody of force. Yes the young guy touched the old guy first and pushed him back. In California, you don't need to back up to your last stand, but young guy had no where to back up to. When old guy leaned in, he was within arms length of young guy. Young guy stopped his forward progress by extending his arm and then reclaimed his personal space by following through with a push, not a thrust. The time it took old guy to respond, means any perceived threat that may have existed with the contact is no longer valid to claim self defense. His opportunity to react in self defense essentially expired. Add to that, pink hat intervening, makes old guy the aggressor and guilty of battery, regardless of any of the preceding events.

The mean mugging young guy was doing was no different than a form of being passive aggressive, or akin to some civil disobedience tactics. This does two things, one it allowed him to protect the crazy lady without being the aggressor (which he ultimately accomplished despite getting his own ass handed to him), and two the old guy must move into young guy's space in order to escalate the situation. Claiming self defense is difficult when you have moved into someone else's space.

I don't think young guy should be able to sue old guy for injuries, because he basically got what he asked for and in my opinion assumed the risk of getting his ass kicked when he inserted himself in the situation. The courts here in California, however would probably reward him for any medical bills he incurred as a result of the exchange.

The issue I was originally bringing up, was how the witnesses twisted the facts of actually happened based on bias against the crazy lady. You can clearly hear a lady say that the young guy hit the old guy first which, honestly, I'm not even sure if he even through a punch or landed one in the whole exchange. Yet you have witnesses saying the young guy started the fight.

My point was that, all of us need to remember this example when conducting ourselves in public. Witness accounts won't always convey facts of the actual event. This could very well mean the difference between going home and going to jail.

Jesus christ, first of all you mean PARITY, not parody, and second of all, guess what? Old bald dude committed a battery. One does NOT have the right to start punching the **** out of another person because they put a hand on them trying to keep the peace.

I realize there is this whole world out there of retards who think you should be able to shoot people in the face for looking at you funny or stepping on your new sneakers and leaving a stain, but it is NOT the law in California. This video is exhibit A in a prosecution against the bald asshole.

**crappler** · Posted On: 8/28/2011 10:27pm

Originally Posted by Sorekara

You should see what the "country boy's" do here in the US. Drinking, fucking, and fighting are pretty much a mainstay.

They even do that with women folk too!!

**Aikironin21** · Posted On: 8/29/2011 2:31am

Originally Posted by crappler

Jesus christ, first of all you mean PARITY, not parody, and second of all, guess what? Old bald dude committed a battery. One does NOT have the right to start punching the **** out of another person because they put a hand on them trying to keep the peace.

I realize there is this whole world out there of retards who think you should be able to shoot people in the face for looking at you funny or stepping on your new sneakers and leaving a stain, but it is NOT the law in California. This video is exhibit A in a prosecution against the bald asshole.

Ummmmm. Have you read this thread? I know it is parity, but I type like ****, and left out a letter or something and when spell check picked it out I clicked the wrong word, after working almost two weeks of double shifts.

I know the baldy committed battery, I never said he did otherwise. My focus here was to bring everyone's attention to the way the witnesses accounts of what happened were shaped by their opinions and bias toward the crazy lady, and the young guy who was sided with her.

I'm not quite sure what your point is. I think we see this the same way.

**Aikironin21** · Posted On: 8/29/2011 2:40am

Originally Posted by patfromlogan

I read enough of this thread to know that Aikironin21 should work out more and type less and I should drink a lot of gin if I'm going to waste my life reading **** like this...

I agree, after returning to Kaj, after a near twenty year hiatus, I have found it necessary to add two more workouts to my day. One in the morning and one in the evening. Can't believe I gave up Kaj for football in high-school.