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    Quote Originally Posted by Lindz View Post
    Of course it's intellectual. It's a PEDAGOGY dammit.

    Never heard of happo no kuzushi. These are the first 3 results when searching youtube. Are any of them what you're talking about?





    LOL at the first one showing up on first on search. That's "Mike Hanon" late of JF fame, showing his stuff.

    yes, that would be happo no kuzushi, the eight directions of off balance.

    Explanation of concepts has it's place, it just gets reversed a lot in Judo. It's better (in my opinion) to have a feel for things and some skill in exectution before thinking too deeply about them. Thinking is the enemy when learning a complex physical skill like Judo, at least in my experience. Progression from simple to complex and core skills that build upon each other is the way to go.

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    Only the first sentence was a joke.
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    J_UK thank you for this, I have been working on playing with a left side grip in Randori recently and the kenka yotsu version will be a nice piece to add in to the mix...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BKR View Post
    LOL at the first one showing up on first on search. That's "Mike Hanon" late of JF fame, showing his stuff.
    And the second one is Judoforum's Smudgeoka in action.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lindz View Post
    Only the first sentence was a joke.
    As Ben has said Happo no Kuzushi is the '8 directions of breaking balance'.

    I think this video gives a good demonstration of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by BKR View Post
    LOL at the first one showing up on first on search. That's "Mike Hanon" late of JF fame, showing his stuff.

    yes, that would be happo no kuzushi, the eight directions of off balance.

    Explanation of concepts has it's place, it just gets reversed a lot in Judo. It's better (in my opinion) to have a feel for things and some skill in exectution before thinking too deeply about them. Thinking is the enemy when learning a complex physical skill like Judo, at least in my experience. Progression from simple to complex and core skills that build upon each other is the way to go.

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    Fascinating. Hanon's judo is, well, just like I imagined. I've always gotten a kick out of him. He'd be an interesting guy to learn from--about as far from the unabashedly sport-oriented club I belong to as you can get. Just don't bring up MMA.

    Candidly, I've never seen happo no kuzushi in person in Judo, nor have I seen it taught or used as a pedagogical tool (minus, e.g., Mifune's book).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Res Judicata View Post
    Fascinating. Hanon's judo is, well, just like I imagined. I've always gotten a kick out of him. He'd be an interesting guy to learn from--about as far from the unabashedly sport-oriented club I belong to as you can get. Just don't bring up MMA.

    Candidly, I've never seen happo no kuzushi in person in Judo, nor have I seen it taught or used as a pedagogical tool (minus, e.g., Mifune's book).
    From watching his videos, Hanon is no slouch at Judo. He would be an interesting guy to study under no doubt.

    Too bad I pissed him off about some minor reiho issues on JF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BKR View Post
    From watching his videos, Hanon is no slouch at Judo. He would be an interesting guy to study under no doubt.

    Too bad I pissed him off about some minor reiho issues on JF.
    You're not the first or last person to piss him off, I'm sure. His skill is unquestionable. Those HTKA videos are impressive, for example, as is the osoto off of circular tai sabaki.

    He strikes me as a formal and somewhat old-fashioned guy and I see that in his videos, too. I hope his health permits him to continue practicing.
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    You thought the HTKA videos were impressive?
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    You thought the HTKA videos were impressive?
    For what he was showing, sure. It's a purely technical demonstration. How many people can do HTKA even close to properly? Switching from left to right and controlling whether you're doing it to the front or to the side cannot be easy. And he's somewhat old and unwell.
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