Thread: Ko soto gari an introduction
7/23/2011 4:34pm, #1
Ko soto gari an introduction
This is intended to be a brief introduction to Ko soto gari. It is not in any way a masterclass or in depth exploration of throw, for the simple reason that Iím not very good at it.
I personally feel that Ko soto gari is a much underappreciated ashi waza. It tends to lose out in popularity to De ashi barai and in glamour to Okuri ashi barai. However, for those who can master it, much like Sasae tsurikomi ashi it can be a devastating lone attack and also wonderful opener of opportunities.
The ideal canonical situation for a Ko soto gari is with uke and tori in the kenka yotsu situation
This is why Ko soto gari is most often used in randori or shiai against left handers or by left handers against right handers as it allows them to resolve the kenka yotsu situation and T-up
Ko soto gari can be used outside of the kenka yotsu situation, however, it usually requires, in the canonical form, for tori to position themselves in the kenka yotsu situation relative to uke.
When in the kenka yotsu situation, outlined above, the footwork is relatively simple. A skip is all thatís needed to position yourself for the Ko soto gari
However, when in ai yotsu the footwork is more complex, requiring tori to manoeuvre much more to position himself correctly.
As seen in demonstrated in full here
When performing Ko soto gari in a straight line drilling situation a similar foot pattern to the O soto gari chasse step can be used to position yourself correctly
Note this version is less dynamic due to an older tori, however, the basic movement and principle of off setting is the same.
Use of the hands
As with all Judo throws, often the biggest issue for beginners is using the hands correctly and using the hands together.
I have written, previously, about the use of the hands in Kari waza.
As in all other kari waza, in Ko soto gari tori must attack ukeís chest and seek to off balance uke so that the majority of ukeís weight is concentrated in the rear corner of the heel of the foot that is going to be reaped.
When attacking with a sleever/hikite side Ko soto gari, the action of the hands to off balance uke can look very much like the action for O soto gari.
However, for tsurite/ lapel side Ko soto gari the action looks quite different.
Tori pulls down firmly with the lapel, weighting ukeís heel
And in a manner similar to lapel side Sasae tsurikomi ashi drives strongly into the noblet of ukeís elbow
Although most contest examples of Ko soto gari will show tori lifting ukeís foot from the mat. For practice purposes and to ensure proper form it is important to practice reaping ukeís foot whilst keeping it as close to the mat as possible.
As when the throw is timed perfectly there will be very little separation between ukeís foot and the mat.
All ashiwaza are ippon scoring techniques in their own right.
However, it is often difficult to sweep, trip or block an experienced opponent sufficiently well to score ippon.
So ashiwaza allow a Judoka to disrupt an opponentís movement patterns and create opportunities for other techniques and the ippon scoring throw.
Ko soto gariís function as an opportunity creator is that it allows tori to T-up relative to uke.
As demonstrated in this video
Tori attacks with Ko soto gari, which creates movement and allows tori to T-up relative to uke.
Although Ko soto gari on its own can be a devastating attack
It is often used in combination and most especially to resolve the kenka yotsu situation to create opportunities for a major forward throw.
Ko soto gari to Tai otoshi
Ko soto gari into (Ni dan) Ko soto gari
O soto gari into Ko soto gari
As always comments, critiques and questions are welcome.
7/23/2011 5:41pm, #2
Nice work, once again. We were working and have been working on Kosoto Gari a lot lately. Once they got De Ashi Barai down, I introduced Kosoto Gari and Gake.
Kosoto is useful as well when combined with gripping sequences to distract uke.
I love Kosoto Gari, and had not practiced it much for a long time, and rediscovered how much I like it and how versatile a throw it is.
As a word of warning to you guys, be very careful attacking the lead foot of uke from the outside in a kenka yotsu (opposite stances) situation. Especially if uke is good at Uchi Mata. You have to have a very good Kosoto Gari to pull that off. I teach to attack the lead/outside leg from the inside (Ouchi Gari) before moving to Kosoto Gari or Gake.
I also reccomend focusing more on Kouchi and Ouchi at first plus De Ashi Barai before moving to Kosoto Gari.
BenFalling for Judo since 1980
7/23/2011 5:55pm, #3
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Thanks. Kenka yotsu ko soto gari/gake is actually one of my tokui waza. I get dan grades with this more than anything else, believe it or not.
A few random observations (some are more for ko soto gake; ko soto gari's ugly sibling:
- If you do this technique poorly against an uchi mata specialist, you're going for a ride.
- Sukuki can leave his foot on his opponent's calf; only Suzuki is Suzuki.
- It's very easy to end up with your opponent T'd up against you; ouchi is right there for your opponent. On other hand, it's an option when your opponent is T'd up.
- Like ko uchi, you can get a surprising distance out of this technique if you drive off of the back foot.
- People rarely expect a low, hard ko soto gake with hard chest contact.
- Ko soto is good tai otoshi counter if you hop over the blocking leg.
- Hands are very important.
7/23/2011 6:21pm, #4
I've personally never been able to counter Tai otoshi with Ko soto gari as the people that try Tai otoshi against me are my coach and other Neil Adams students and so when they try Tai otoshi I go over and there is no hope of me resisting it, lol!
7/23/2011 6:30pm, #5
This illustrates the point you made on judoforum about kuzushi not being separate from footwork and tai sabaki pretty well.
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7/23/2011 6:36pm, #6
7/23/2011 6:58pm, #7
I used to throw guys for ippon in shiai in kenka yotsu, but it was almost always at the edge, and under the old pre-dynamic edge rules the throw never counted. I threw a guy for ippon at collegiate nationals that way, he was 6' tall but fighting at -65 kg, akward bastard indeed. Needless to say, I lost the match, which sucked, because everybody else I could have beaten.
Lol, very true, the last time I did a half arsed Ko soto against a left hander I got launched, lol.
I've personally never been able to counter Tai otoshi with Ko soto gari as the people that try Tai otoshi against me are my coach and other Neil Adams students and so when they try Tai otoshi I go over and there is no hope of me resisting it, lol!Falling for Judo since 1980
7/23/2011 7:03pm, #8
Yeah, so many teach Judo like some sort of intellectual exercise, showing happo no kuzushi, and generally confusing everyone.
I was telling my students last night, (while working on Kosoto Gari), that tai sabaki creates the kuzushi for the opportunity (debana), and that tai sabaki, kuzushi, tsukuri, etc are not separate discrete entities, and that thinking about them that was is the road to perdition. Then I had to tell them what "road to perdition" meant. But I did feel very intelligent as a result!
Anyway, that's a pet peeve of mine in Judo, same as all the idiots on JF that whine about how horrible "grip fighting" is and how to just "take a grip you get" and work with that.
BenFalling for Judo since 1980
7/23/2011 7:05pm, #9Falling for Judo since 1980
7/23/2011 7:20pm, #10