USA, 2011: Captain America

**Hiro Protagonist** · Posted On: 7/26/2011 8:02pm

Saw an early screening tonight.
Good, solid comic book adaptation.
I wish they played a bit more with their available tropes, though,
similar to the way Raimi handled Spiderman.

Overall, the movie feels solid, but a bit bland.
Too bland to become a classic, actually.
Avengers should better be good, or we will once maybe look back to a lot of wasted potential.

That ends the movie summer for me, apart from the thrilled anticipation for "A Dangerous Method", which starts in January, AFAIK.

(I am a dramatically whorish David Cronenberg whore.)

**Soldiermedic** · Posted On: 7/27/2011 7:31am

Overall, the movie feels solid, but a bit bland.

I assumed they did so to make the eventual story arc of Cap's disillusionment all the more dramatic.

**Hiro Protagonist** · Posted On: 7/27/2011 8:43am

I hope so. As I said, Avengers better be good.

As I said, I think the movie was entertaining, but thinking of how much more could have been done with the topic, makes me think of how far I am really removed from the blockbuster culture that seems to aim at thirteen-year-olds alone these days.

For the future, I would wish for a wave of less funky, and more adult-oriented entertainment. - Like another Thomas Jane Punisher, a Conan movie whose trailer doesn't come with Linkin Park music, or heeeeeeeeeeeeeeell, that they let Kerry Conran out of his cave, and make more movies. What he would have done with Captain America, it would have been the movie of the decade!

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 7/27/2011 8:54am

Kerry Conran? The world is not ready for steampunk Captain America. No, I'll take safe bland, "I'll get another CA" movie over a hit or miss "we must reboot."

**Hiro Protagonist** · Posted On: 7/27/2011 9:21am

Yeah, I know, but it would have been so much more indepted to the 70 years of tradition,
and just not a somewhat loveless and run-of-the-mill franchise movie.

But then again, it's not like the movie was bad -
but that doesn't mean it's specifically good, though. Lamentably.

I am thrilled about the Winter Soldier option, though.

**CoffeeFan** · Posted On: 7/27/2011 9:24am

Originally Posted by It is Fake

Kerry Conran? The world is not ready for steampunk Captain America. No, I'll take safe bland, "I'll get another CA" movie over a hit or miss "we must reboot."

It already is a reboot

**Snake Plissken** · Posted On: 7/27/2011 11:17am

I would have liked the film to end the with the scene from the Ultimate Avengers (paraphrasing here as I don't have the GN before me), when Cap accuses Colonel Nick Fury of being a plant and fighting with him before he accepts it and breaks down crying.

They wouldn't, as it has racist overtures, but it is a still a powerful scene.

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 7/27/2011 1:18pm

Originally Posted by CoffeeFan

It already is a reboot

22 years? Semantics.

Relaunch. Ask DC how well trying to continue working from an old movie worked...*Cough* Stalker Superman.

Reboot?
Hulk and the two newest Punishers.

Yes, we are going to disagree on this one.

**Snake Plissken** · Posted On: 7/27/2011 1:50pm

Originally Posted by Hiro Protagonist

Kerry Conran

Conran reminds me of someone like Kurt Wimmer or Christophe Gans in as much as they are a little too "visionary" for the general public.....Conran would have probably done a good job with Cap, however Johnson was probably a "safer" choice.

Sky Captain = The Rocketeer

Then with Conran...you gots nothing. At least with Johnson you have a track record with Jumanji, Jurassic Park III and (while not financial successes) Hidalgo and Wolfman. Guy showed he could deliver a big-budget film.

Pre-Iron Man...they were more lenient with directors. Granted, Raimi and Story and Del Torro are *names*, but they aren't safe bets for superheroes. Post Favereau Iron Man, Marvel seems less likely take chances.

**CoffeeFan** · Posted On: 7/27/2011 2:59pm

Originally Posted by It is Fake

22 years? Semantics.

Relaunch. Ask DC how well trying to continue working from an old movie worked...*Cough* Stalker Superman.

Reboot?
Hulk and the two newest Punishers.

Yes, we are going to disagree on this one.

I was being facetious, I just wanted a reason to post that trailer for those who haven't seen that abomination.