The bujinkan. Need help from guys that did it for years. Please help

**shotfghter** · Posted On: 7/22/2011 2:45am

funny part is I was reading this thread

http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/sho...-a-fraud/page5

look at how many people defend bujinkan. Same thing goes for MAP. While I like the bujinkan, I don't like the amount of nutriders the damn art has, and how questioning Hatsumi shuts people down for a discussion.

**The Juggernoob** · Posted On: 7/22/2011 2:47am

Originally Posted by shotfghter

While I like the bujinkan, I don't like the amount of nutriders the damn art has, and how questioning Hatsumi shuts people down for a discussion.

What? Why do you like the Bujinkan?

**shotfghter** · Posted On: 7/22/2011 3:03am

The organization, the whole style aside from the the Newaza and Tachi waza, (striking as well) they have.

The weapons stuff they do, pretty much everything else. I like.

After reading kips posts its pretty obvious hes either a troll or very new to the internet. I don't like calling people trolls, because they may have different views from mine, but he is not making the Bujinkan look any better.

**The Juggernoob** · Posted On: 7/22/2011 3:11am

So you like the "style" I.E the corrupt rankings, super deadly black gi's, the waist size/ dan rank ratio.

The techniques, i.e, made up, poorly copied and downright stupid.

The weapons teachniques, you mean the ones mocked by real Japanese martial artists for being poorly taught and half guessed?

In fact, what you like isnt a Martial Art, its known as live action roleplay. People get together to dress up and pretend they're fictional beings with fictional histories, and they "live act" the various lifestyles their "characters" have.

Bujinkan the most successful LARP society on the planet.

**shotfghter** · Posted On: 7/22/2011 3:35am

I respect that.

I feel differently, but that is something else. My thoughts in relation to this topic are that I would never poke someones eye out, or kick their groin (or maybe I would, I don't know), and that law enforcement officers shouldn't do that either.

**The Juggernoob** · Posted On: 7/22/2011 3:39am

Considering that the topic is dead and our respective lines have been drawn in the sand, I have no issue with, nor will I judge your opinion if you care to voice it. An opinion is an opinion, mine is mine and yours is yours and both of us may be wrong, so dont feel like you cant hash it out with me because you think I wont listen.

**CheeksWWAC** · Posted On: 7/22/2011 4:14am

I wish a cop would poke my eye out (on tape). In the world of the blind, the one eyed man has a lot of lawsuit money to pay for hookers and blow.

**madmonkey** · Posted On: 7/22/2011 4:15am

Originally Posted by kip

The knee kick is done with the heel and in a reverse manner so that you can do it close at a distance. So your saying sticking your finger in someones eye wont take them out? My problem with competition arts is that they dont use techniques that could kill or seriously hurt the other guy. I have seen MMA fights that stopped when the eyes were accitdentally bumped.

As a law enforcement officer your surely your job is bring people in to face justice not met it out yourself. Fair enough if your life is in danger but all the techniques you are describing are low percentage techniques that would require precise execution.

The law enforcement here in the UK teach more high percentage moves that use gross motor skills and are therefore much easier to learn and much more likely to connect with the opponent. Eg Shin kick to leg, Kicking the person in the shin and running you foot down their shin, elbows to body or head, hooks to body and head, the idea being not to knock the person out necessarily but to distract them enough that you can then apply a lock or follow up with a more powerful stirke

**Chili Pepper** · Posted On: 7/22/2011 8:18am

Originally Posted by CheeksWWAC

I wish a cop would poke my eye out (on tape). In the world of the blind, the one eyed man has a lot of lawsuit money to pay for hookers and blow.

I salute you, sir. In a world where so many people depend on lottery tickets for their retirement fund, you have a bold plan. Kudos, sir! Kudos!

**ermghoti** · Posted On: 7/22/2011 8:23am

Originally Posted by shotfghter

I don't like calling people trolls, because they may have different views from mine...

Oh, he's unquestionably a troll, it was obvious in the first sentence or two of the OP. No police officer is looking on the internet for eye-gouges and ear claps. A guy with a gun, a tazer, a baton, and an internal investigations unit has absolutely no interest in deadly street techniques that fat guys can use to defeat super villains mano a mano.