The Worst Techniques I've Ever Been Taught

[Jekyll]

I think the x-block is used to set up a armlock defence against being smacked over the head by a big guy with a stick in the gracie self-defence handbook.

[Poop Loops]

Remember how I said my BJJ class is held in a big-ass McDojo?

Yesterday I had my first class, while another "karate" class was held in the other room. Every now and then I'd hear the head instructor yelling stuff (at other adults, mind you). I think there was some anti-grappling. I heard "JUDO.... something something... USELESS!!" although I can't be sure. Then I saw in the window a reflection of the head instructor holding the opposite arm of another guy by his wrist (instructor right, guy left), then kicking the guy with his right foot in the head. Quite possibly the hardest and riskiest thing you can do in that situation.

PL

[Reikon]

w i d e....s t a n c e s.

[9chambers]

>Quite possibly the hardest and riskiest thing you can do in that situation.


Aside from nasal sex.

[taikwido]

Most of the stuff I was taught in Aikido was pretty bad, some of it was usefull, but only a small percentage. Anyway the worst offender was a move where you lead the guy round through 360 degrees by his arm while he stumbles around like that drunk Shun guy from Virtua Fighter. Then you finsh with a lock that wouldn't work on anyone. That's the worst thing I've been taught.

... than maybe it will work. I actually thought this technique was completely stupid until I actually was TRYING to grab someones hand and stumbled around trying to get it.

I think most Aikido teachers would freely admit that it's just an exercise and you wouldn't want to actually use it.

[taikwido]

Omar.

My point was that particular Aikido instructor had no basis to demonstrate the techniuqe. Because he was doing it against people who couldn't kick to save their lives.

And I have a big problem with the whole' just step out of the way' concept. If your up against a conditioned striker, the notion that you can just step out of the way and let a kick or punch go sailing past you is absurd. It is just not realistic at all. My time training in Kyokushin and before when I did boxing has shown me that.

Oh and where is that bullshit artist Shumagorath ?
He still has yet to answer my question.

Dodging kicks (to the upper body) with footwork is NOT that hard. The deal is that not many arts teach kicks well since they devalue them so much.

For the sake of demonstration and practice, using inexperienced people is probably fine. But you're right that to fine tune the technique, you need someone who kicks well.

Students are students. You don't need an experienced student to start teaching them techniques. The purpose of class is not to "prove" anything.

I would say that Aikido teacher is perfectly OK doing what he was doing. So long as HE HIMSELF was a decent kicker and act as a competent uke once the students were refined enough to do this live.

[taikwido]

the one laying on the ground after it was chopped off?

You block the arm holding the knife. A following twisting motion can give you control of the guys arms and allow you to throw.

BTW, we worked on knife defenses last week in Aikido. And my sensei didn't like that one. She advocated one handed blocks followed up by hand control or atemi.

[Anna Kovacs]

X block follow up.

Stop attack, seize wrist with right hand, pull through and under your left arm, lean back and place your weight on their arm violently. This will jack up their arm. (Or make them eat dirt, at the very least.)

Edited to add: Image lifted from the the VArmouries translation of Fiore. http://www.varmouries.com/wildrose/fiore

[Wounded Ronin]

Don't forget Talhoffer-fu and it's techniques for fighting in a greased leather suit while standing in a hole in the ground.

[afronaut]

The guy who advised me to major in one of the liberal arts ... does that count?