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http://io9.com/5823132/how-many-calo...walking-around
Text of the io9 blog's article:
Yes, the article turns a bit snarky at the end, but the link does have a cool video clip, and the comments section might be worth a read too. Plus, it looks like the hyperlink at "article locked" will take you to the full journal paper.Knights in shining armor were the worst idea in military history
Cyriaque Lamar—
To determine how much energy knights in the Middle Ages burnt merely strolling around, British researchers recruited volunteers to dress up in mock-ups of real knightly armor and — in a hilarious twist — gallivant on treadmills. Sure enough, the study found that shielding the entire body was a heavy proposition. Watch the volunteers get medieval on sedentary lifestyles.
Donning these replica suits — which were modeled on the armor of a 15th century London sheriff named William Martyn — forced the volunteers to expend approximately twice the amount of energy when engaging in cardiovascular activity.
After physiologist Graham Askew of the University of Leeds monitored the mail-bedecked volunteers trudging and jogging on treadmills, the researchers discovered that wearing the armor resulted in volunteers using 1.9 times more energy while running and 2.3 times more while walking.
Despite the protection and surprising mobility afforded by the armor — the volunteers could do cartwheels while wearing it — the distribution of plated weight across the volunteers' arms, feet, and legs caused them to burn energy at a greater rate than someone carrying the same amount of weight solely on their back. Additionally, the chest plate restricted the running volunteers' torsos, which limited the volume of the volunteers' oxygen intake.
Professor Askew knows that not all armors are built the same and would like to conduct similar tests with other kinds of historical body armor. Sadly, Askew has already nixed a similar test using an armored warhorse running on a treadmill, as the potential for this experiment to devolve into a Yakety Sax-scored chase scene is too great.
We'd also like to point out that the University of Leeds' team did not factor in any possible +1 speed buffs cast by friendly warlocks, the physiological affects of the Tincture of Heartiness, or the outside chance that Sheriff Martyn was the proprietor of the fabled Loafers of Alacrity.
[Proceedings of the Royal Society B (article locked) via Science. Photo and video via Graham Askew of the University of Leeds.]
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This part of the Sword episode of Mike Loades show Weapons that Made Britain seems relevant to the topic.
(it starts around 3:44)
(and continues here)
The whole series is worth watching.
Armour’s were custom made to fit the person wearing it- unless the volunteers were the exact same build as the 15th century sheriff this conclusion is bullshit.Additionally, the chest plate restricted the running volunteers' torsos, which limited the volume of the volunteers' oxygen intake.
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How often would a knight actually walk/run in full armour? That’s what horses were for. Knights were heavy cavalry. In French and German even the name indicates they rode horses in battle. Knights would even ride their horses into churches for masses. Warhorse was the most important and most expensive part of knights equipment. While knights sometimes dismounted and fought on foot I would imagine they removed parts of their armour for that.Last edited by keyoz; 8/01/2011 6:00am at .
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thx for your post.
as regards your critique on the use of someone else's armour during the experiment: you're correct. On the other hand, I can imagine that armour for the torso impedes breath to some extent.
as regards walking/running knights: every time their horses got shot/killed during the battle, happened often enough. Or when their horses died from malnutrition and exhaustion during the march. -
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Many of the wealthier knights had spare horses, and one of squires jobs was replacing the knight's horse with a new one or even giving him his own horse. Also squires work well with Mike Loades theory that on foot knights fought in pairs- its possible that while the knight was catching a breath his squire did the fighting and vice versa.
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I wrote 'every time': this implies horses got killed several time. Squires were heavily armed too, not as heavy as their lords though. Dismounted knights fighting as heavy infantry also occurred with a certain regularity. Sure, the main role for knights is on horseback, but this wasn't always te case (Battle of the Standard, Scottish Wars, Hundred Years' War (e.g.: Crécy), Brémule, and in the Holy Land e.g. Richard Lionheart at Jaffa)
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Yeah I got that- as I wrote knights fighting on foot did happened but I think they fought in pairs with their squires and wore a little less armour than when fighting from horseback. Also when I'm speaking about armour I think about the late medieval plate mail like the one form the experiment.
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Knights had a separate horse for travel than the horse they rode into war. They also took good care of their war horses since it took time and money to train a horse for war. Many of them also, as keyoz said, had replacements they traveled with. Any given knight fought on foot in tournaments for sport far more than an entire group of them ever had to in battle.
However, I'd imagine even fighting from horseback in armor would be exhausting... -
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Cool article, except for this:
Knights in shining armor were the worst idea in military history
That kind of ignores the benefits and circumstances of wearing armor. It's like pointing out how space suits are the worst tracksuits ever made. Especially considering that a fully armored knight would likely go into battle on top of a galloping horse.



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Old news: oxygen and energy use in medieval armour