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    I used to do business with AAC. They are a reasonable company. Feel free to put a stop payment on and force them to come after you. As for kungfuusa I don't know them but if I know of one of their blackbelt. Not too impressed. If I go over and accept their challenge it would be quite fun.

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    I just got an email back. Yes, my friend got his blackbelt from these guys.

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    I've re-read this thread several time and I missed something.....
    ...after looking at that contract, you paid nearly $8K for what, exactly?

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    Three years of training in their blackbelt program. It is group training held on Mondays-Saturday although Friday was cut out about half a year ago. Does not include belt testing fees but does include a short staff, staff, wooden training sword, a uniform, and some fairly cheap sparring equipment.

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    Granted, I am not in the Southern California area, but that seems like a pretty steep price, even for there.

    SoCal, can I get a ruling?

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    That's very expensive.

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    For 36 months of training, that's $222 a month, along with 3 weapons and a uniform. A staff, short stick and bokken? I'd say that's less than $50 worth of weapons, and probably less than $50 for the uniform (depending on what it is; it could be a lot less too). Hardly a great deal for locking in a steep long term payment, but when you leave with a bunch of stuff and its everything you'll need for training it can seem like kind of a bargain at the time. I've seen nice Mcdojos in SoCal for $100-$150/month, with classes 6 days a week. There's also lots of good training out there for less (I pay $65/month to learn from an FMA master, but he doesn't have a school to keep open).

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    I assumed as much, based on the varying commentary on the site, in various threads.

    Would getting a practical cost-based analysis of other surrounding schools in the area be of any use, should the school owner pursue this in small claims court?

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    School wouldn't have much grounds to stand on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defense View Post
    I'm an attorney as well (newly minted). If he threatened to ruin your credit, made harassing telephone calls etc., check your state's debt collection laws. Some states have statutes that prohibit certain tactics in order to collect a debt and provide for statutory damages for each violation. If your state has such a statute you could pursue a small claims action for damages or consult with an attorney and bring suit in district court. it may give you some leverage.
    Actually the federal fair debt collection act prohibits the use of threats or harassment in the attempt to collect a debt. However you would need proof of any violation. You can find a copy (PDF) of that act online, and should probably take a look, since it sounds like you are probably going to be faced with a number of things prohibited there.

    [edit -here is the link to the PDF of the act provided by the FTC ]
    http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/cons...edit/cre27.pdf
    Last edited by krsd; 8/12/2011 5:17am at . Reason: Added link

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