Thread: Mark Tripp is a bia bia
7/18/2011 7:31pm, #111
7/18/2011 7:34pm, #112
7/18/2011 8:50pm, #113
Let me say something on this but this is only my opinion and stuff I have been, let's say, told for lack of a better word. When it comes to rank in Judo if someone says you are a certain rank OR sponsors you for a rank and a board agrees with them then you should not question them. I forget the Latin term that came up during the Morton investigation. It's just to say that you are not significant enough to question such an authority because they are certainly infallible.
Now in the case of Morton we were proven correct. So certainly they are not infallible but "certainly" they are not wrong in this one. I have no idea about Lowery nor do I care to know.
I have resigned my position in Judo politics. Stuff like this is making us look bad and quite frankly I am fed up with it. My solution has been to remove my self from that nonsense.Judo is only gentle for the guy on top.
7/18/2011 9:02pm, #114
7/18/2011 9:19pm, #115
Language is based on conventional agreement. If you disagree with the definition, take it up with society. We can say the same with other words, including "the", "cockroach", and "Christianity".
We have lots of historic documents shedding light on what a Christian is. Namely, we have what the early Christians had to say about themselves (Paul, Clement, etc.). We also have what opponents of Christianity had to say about them (Marcus Aurelius, Rabbi Akiva, etc.).
For you to be oblivious of the wealth of documentation available to us is to have no understanding on what history is. Doing a song and dance on interpretation has no bearing on what historical fact is.
It does not refute anything. However, it does indicate that calling yourself a Christian in early 19th century North America was convenient.
Yes, there is. Off the top of my head, there's the Shema, the Apostles' Creed, and the Nicene Creed.
I'm using monotheism to indicate a broad concept that Christians largely have agreement about. You should know what this word means without me explaining it to you.
The difference between Mormonism and historical -- that is to say, historically documented creeds of the early Church -- is that Mormons have a fundamental disagreement on what "monotheism" and "oneness" means.
No, I'm saying that it's a documented historical fact that Visigoths existed. That there is no more Visigoths has no bearing on this fact. In the same way, God may or may not exist, but this has no bearing on whether there have been historical Christian beliefs.
Great. So if I murder someone, I'll get off -- because history is primarily interpretive. If I disagree with what the word "murder" means, I guess I'm not going to jail.
You can find scholars answering all these questions with "Yes!" and making strong or weak arguments for the same. If you're just stuck blubbering, "But but...the Soviet Union fell!" you're not going to understand anything.
It is only interpretive if one has never read any historical documents regarding early Christian creeds. I'm beginning to think you haven't.
My taxa is based on my ability to read documents of later imperial Rome -- and its description of a new upstart religion that was taking the Empire by storm.
There is an Atheist's Club since atheism is an "ism". Doctrines imply exclusivity.
Anyway, I make a habit of not arguing with people whose ultimate argument is "My invisible friend promised me a big house after I died if I think the way I do," so you can have the last word.
The majority of evangelicals and fundamentalists agree that Roman Catholicism has its basis in a historic creedal tradition.
You and I have a fundamental disagreement in views. I say that history is primarily factual. You say it is interpretive. I wonder how your views would be sustainable if you were ever to go to court.
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7/18/2011 9:59pm, #116
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As far as I am concerned, anyone who accepts Yeshua as Messioch is a Christian. Mormons self-identify as christian too. Evangelical Lutherans are not so keen on the idea. I brought it up because I think some folks were ready to see Mark as part of a group he sees as biggots.Now darkness comes; you don't know if the whales are coming. - Royce Gracie
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7/18/2011 10:16pm, #117
So if Mark Tripp challenges someone to a Temple-sealed Randori, does that mean the Tatami extends Beyond the Veil?
SHIAS CAN BE FOREVER!!!
7/18/2011 10:23pm, #118
7/18/2011 10:35pm, #119
7/18/2011 10:38pm, #120