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  1. It is Fake is offline
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    No. Shaolin-do and Judo are apple and oranges plus, you have East Coast vs. West Bias in Shaolin-do vs Chinese Shaolin Center. I'd say, if they didn't have a bullshido history, there is less drama in Shaolin-do than Judo. Judo competes and is in the Olympics whereas, Shaolin-do is not recognized on a national or World level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Phillips View Post
    Fair enough. I don't know exactly where this is going myself because I'm still digging, but I will say that the "Judo politics is dirty and has been 4 evar" narrative just makes me want to look at it harder, not less. Shaolin Do has the same problems, right?
    Keep looking. You could make a career of it.

    I have no idea about Shaolin Do.

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    My point was that just because "everyone" already knows there is BS in Judo is no reason not to give it the once over when warranted. We already know many things are BS, and rip them up all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BKR View Post
    I have no idea about Shaolin Do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BKR View Post
    Lowry started Judo and Aikido in 1992, correct? So he had been doing Judo and was promoted in KG system. He was not a yellow belt. If you are talking about another of the KG group of promotions, the same thing probably applies.
    Looking back with the way back machine at the list of affiiated dojo heads, I find that this is only occasionally true. For example 3632913 12/7/2006 Judo Hachidan is listed as a Judo 1st dan on 9/25/2006 (ie: 3 months before receiving USJA rank). Some folks (Lowry for example) have the same rank in JA now as they had with Geis before entering the JA system, many however do not. It's not a simple case of rank mirroring with a different group; 3632913 picked up 7 dan grades above where Geis had him ranked when he entered JA.

    http://web.archive.org/web/200609160.../directory.htm
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    In De Janerio, in blackest night,
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    Quote Originally Posted by BKR View Post
    Try to get your facts straight and state them correctly.

    Lowry started Judo and Aikido in 1992, correct? So he had been doing Judo and was promoted in KG system. He was not a yellow belt. If you are talking about another of the KG group of promotions, the same thing probably applies.

    I' m not defending the USJA procedures of howerver they wangled the deal, in fact, I don't care.
    i started aikido in 1982, judo 1983
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    28 Years = 8th Dan?
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    28 Years = 8th Dan?
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  9. Matt Phillips is online now
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    Ben, (assuming you are talking about Nick) first off 2006-1983=23. Second, by your own accounting of the facts Nick was already an 8th dan before 2006. That said, Lowry is actually among the few people in this group that can show substantial time in Judo before getting their high USJA rank.
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    In De Janerio, in blackest night,
    Luta Livre flees the fight,
    Behold Maeda's sacred tights;
    Beware my power... Blue Lantern's light!
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    Matt,

    I'm a USJA orange, I believe I'm still active. If you want me to look into filing anything official I'd be willing. If you need more information from me feel free to PM.
    I do not aspire to be great, or even good, I hope to suck a little less then last class.
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